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Hello hujidong

Great to hear about your interest in Taubman Technique!
It is about reaching your potential as a pianist without sustaining injury. Using your body properly by maintaining proper alignment, balance and movement, you can avoid severe injuries as a pianist.

When I started with Taubman Technique in college, I had already practiced in a certain way for a long time, with wrist free from tension. The professor was busy with correcting my postures, hand positions, and tension I had.

I do have a colleague with a doctorate degree in piano performance who studied the Taubman Technique. He sounded different, superior, than everyone else. Even playing on the same piano, he stood out from the crowd. When played properly, it affects the sound created as well.

I do not sit for a long time in front of the piano because I am very active. I would have benefitted more if I was one of those people who can sit in one spot for hours at a time.

I hope this helps.



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Hi again, hujidong

I did visit Hawaii last summer for two weeks and enjoyed my stay there.
I learned some words. I nearly passed out after eating Poi Poi, the raw fish.

Aloha
Mahalo
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Ne ne
Wahine

Best

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That is incredible. Could you elaborate more on your technique method here please? It would be a wonderful contribution to this forum of knowledge.

Glad you enjoyed your stay in Hawaii! Poke? Poi is mashed taro plant, I think you got it a little mixed up.

All the best!

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If you go to" Musicians With Focal Dystonia Bulletin Board," under the forum title: "Rubber Band," or my name: Richard Lewis, you will see how a lack of zinc in the diet may be the cause of focal dystonia. I have focal dystonia myself since I was 49. But at the age of 65 I increased my zinc intake along with vitamin B-6 on an empty stomach, and my focal dystonia in my left hand was lessened by over 50%. It seems that copper in the diet can bring on the focal dystonia and zinc seems to reduce the copper...Brass mouth pieces also have a lot of copper and trumpet players are getting the focal dystonia in their lips, which proves the zinc/copper connection....I also notice that if I do a lot of scales on the guitar, since I also play the flamenco guitar, and the piano, my left hand moves faster after about 20 minutes...You need to get the blood into the hand. Maybe the zinc is being directed there...I also notice that dark chocolate seems to help my playing as well...Dark chocolate seems to suppress the over firing of the brain's neurons as well as the amino acid Glycine, GABA, Taurine....they also can reduce the over firing of the brain's neurons which are short circuiting the 4th and 5th fingers of my left hand...The brain seems to be confused when the fingers are moving too fast...There is also a great article about how a guitarist overcame his focal dystonia by doing certain exercises. The title of the article is: What Every Guitarist Should Know: A Guide to the Prevention and Rehabilitation of Focal Hand Dystonia," by Jason W. Solomon....Every one who has focal dystonia in the hand should read this very important article....

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Hello, hujidong

Exactly my point. After eating the raw fish, Poke, I passed out and thought it was Poi, Poi. grin There is probably about 6 hours difference between Hawaii and Michigan. I enjoyed the Hawaiian sea breeze 24/7, kept the weather cool even in the summer.

Back to Taubman Technique, it takes years of practice to get this right. When achieved properly, the sound is different, superior in my view.
Alignment of the body position is just the natural drop of your arms on the side. This will work as the foundation. Balance is the absence of striking the keys or holding up the hands. These forced actions will create injuries. Movement refers to the rotation of the forearm and walking hands. Just as walking requires balance, balanced movement on the piano is desired. All these natural, unforced movements will allow for a longer practice time without unnecessary injury. Although a simple premise, it takes years of practice and not everyone properly achieve this technique.

Hope this helps.


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Hi Schubert!

That's wonderful! Please let me know when you are going there again, I don't think I'll be there for a while but hey, maybe we could have a pianoworld party..ha!

As for the Taubman Technique, what you've given sounds really really vague. I had never had the fortune of hearing about it but, I'm just going to be straight to the point. Could you link or name a published version of this technique? I would really love to read up more on it. Right now it just looks like what all pianists are really trying to achieve anyways (with the right mindset and usage of time), and maybe out of a million roads to an end there is one that is shorter. That's what Frost wrote right? LOL This Taubman Technique could really help my practicing!! Perhaps it could inspire some philosophical questions so more specific ones can be raised.

In the meantime, what's with all this million roads to one end? Why do we feel the need to leave our name on knowledge? Do people really forget things that they love?

Danke sehr

P.S. I'm sorry I have to edit my posts, I have this terrible habit of using quick post and just shooting one out before I proof-read.

P.S.S. Could we hear more about focal dystonia from this thread? Maybe us stupid artists have something to contribute to science! Or is it the other way around? Mwahaha! Maybe it's just stupid athletes who can't figure it out for themselves. grin JK Please don't beat me up in the sandbox. Had quite enough of that frown

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Sorry, but I can't seem to compete with long posters on this site because I am.....young and active. grin laugh .

Regarding the Taubman Technique, I did a short search and found a discussion here on PW. You can read over the discussion and make a decision for yourself whether it is something you would commit to.
Taubman Technique DVDs are available to purchae but only do it if you think you will really use it.

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There's a lot of misinformation and unproductive squabbling in some prior discussions of Taubman technique on PW. So I don't think that's the first place I would direct the curious.

The Taubman DVDs are expensive; I'd suggest seeing if you can get them through a library. They're a bit dated but still the best introduction, other than a skilled teacher. You can also check out www.golandskyinstitute.org or www.wellbalancedpianist.com.

For the academically inclined, there's a doctoral dissertation:
http://golandsky.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/t_milanovic-phd-april-2012.pdf


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I think I will call my symptoms something like loss of involuntary control. I have no problem controlling my fifth when focussing mentally on it. But as soon as my attention lapses, it will contract. The amount of attention required to keep it under control has increased over the months, to the detriment of control over the rest of my hand. Today, I'm reduced to sight-reading, which is levels lower than was my technical ability.

I'm trying to exhaust the NHS route before going to a private doctor. I cannot afford private at the moment. The NHS has been incredibly slow. So far, I've seen a musculoskeletal specialist who flexed my fingers and noticed a weakness in my right fifth finger. She has referred me to a hand specialist. I've also had a number of unrelated blood tests. These came back with no problems except for one: macrocytosis. My GP wants me to retake the test. If it comes back again positive for macrocytosis then I may possibly have a vitamin B12 deficiency. Apparently, vitamin B12 deficiency can be a cause of macrocytosis, as well as focal dystonia. Perhaps that's a red-herring. So I'll retake the test this week. Let's see...

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Hi Nikki,

So glad to hear from you! I know it seems like this is taking along time to sort out. However, the doctors have a good reason for checking all these things. It's important to rule out any underlying conditions before resorting to therapies that could have very pronounced and unpleasant side-effects.

If it turns out that your problem is in any way improved through diet, that's great! We are all rooting for you here.

Cheers!

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I'm not a person to easily give up. I've solved problems far worse than this one. If there is a solution then I will find it.

Thanks for your wishes.

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I had it and I overcame it. I had it in the left hand.
That was how I sounded with focal Dystonia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMWfzv0qkX8

Today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2Mh2xxsnL0

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