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I must admit that I was intrigued by the idea of laquering hammers before there was any way to determine if the treatment was needed.


Same here. How does the OP know their tone is now "uniform?" Or, better yet, how did he know it wasn't prior to lacquering?

We may be faced here with a level of "rebuilder's intuition" that I have not yet attained. wink


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Dang, David, you nailed it.

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Originally Posted by TunerJeff
Hmmm. One of my personal horror-stories was a Steinway M from the 50's...which an unscrupulous 'rebuilder' in the early 80's 'rebuilt' by replacing the hammers with ...I am not kidding.... a used set of Teflon-era hammers and shanks that were 'like new'. The middle and top were full of that tiny little 'click' and 'tink' of the Teflon bushings rattling in the shanks. Brilliant, not.

This lovely piano 50's instrument had a set of 'Perma-Click' hammers put into it! I'm guessing that the rebuilder looked at that set of slightly used hammers and went 'What the Heck?' and saved himself a thousand bucks and reached into the discard bin to use those things. Of course....when I saw it shortly after it returned to the owner I had to explain that the job had been done incorrectly, and the owner had to argue with the 'rebuilder' over the changed hammer set. Since the bill specified 'new hammers/shanks/flanges' it was a no-brainer...and did not have to go to court.

I don't know how old 'Great Grandpa's' hammers are...but I'd look at those flanges and see if he just couldn't get himself to throw out a set of lovely looking hammers, because they were TEFLON-era and maybe he thought he might rebush the dang things...someday...which never came. Are the bushings plastic/teflon? Or standard red-bushing cloth? Might be why a good looking set of hammers were on the shelf, gents.

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There are no bushings, flanges, shanks, etc. These are just hammer heads. Nothing else


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I have sold a few sets of used hammers, hammer/shank/flange, and wippen sets. And yes, used is not the same as new, however as has been mentioned, there are some people who simply could not afford new and even lightly used is a huge improvement. Most recently these parts are going to countries in South America where getting new parts can be more difficult than used.

In the interest of saving our natural resources I would think this practice would be seen as a good thing, not something to be scoffed at.

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Reconditionned ?

I can understand the sale of an added value and the work to pack the parts, the time spend.

The parts by themselves have no value in accounting, in fact the whole price you are paid is considered benefit as you did not buy the parts.

Decent condition whippens can be very useful for older Steinways, as old part that can be find on pianos that are at dump.

Reconditionning to new condition a whippen set is about 36 hours work. economically not viable, but it can be the only solution to maintain geometry.







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Originally Posted by anrpiano
I have sold a few sets of used hammers, hammer/shank/flange, and wippen sets. And yes, used is not the same as new, however as has been mentioned, there are some people who simply could not afford new and even lightly used is a huge improvement. Most recently these parts are going to countries in South America where getting new parts can be more difficult than used.

In the interest of saving our natural resources I would think this practice would be seen as a good thing, not something to be scoffed at.

Bravo!


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