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Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? #2128512
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From my research, Knabe used to be one of the most prestigious American piano makers. I'm aware that the company is now under Samick ownership and most of their pianos under this brand are now made in Indonesia. I'm interested in their current Baltimore line as it seems it offers decent quality and craftsmanship at reasonable price point.

I appreciate any opinions on their current offerings.

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Re: Opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos [Re: Delphian2001] #2128553
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What I know...

After talking to a couple of dealers, build quality has improved since the line was introduced.

I had a chance to try the WG50, sitting next to a Yamaha GC-1. Touch was not bad on the Knabe as compared to the Yamaha, especially considering the difference in price (the Knabe was less than 9K). Tonally, the five footer seemed a bit muffled or mushy to me, while the Yamaha was a bit too bright for my taste.

I would have really liked to have moved up one size to the WG54, but the dealer didn't have one. I notice that most dealers try to have this piano in stock, so I'm assuming it's a good seller.

I know that's not much, but I think I'd start with the WG54 and work my way up.


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Re: Opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos [Re: Delphian2001] #2128822
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We offer Knabe as an option and we are pleased with the line. The pianos require prep., but the WG series does represent a nice performance for the money IMHO.

BTW, we have been searching for a good entry level choice for some time now and are pleased with what the Knabe line offers.


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Re: Opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos [Re: Delphian2001] #2128836
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Since y'all handle the line, a question:

I've noticed most dealers handle the WG line, but not much of the WM line. I know the WM line does not feature the smaller pianos and I know they are very similar (if not identical) to some K&C offerings, but it seems like they offer a good bit more grand piano (at least on paper) than the WG line, for very little more money.

Have y'all stocked any of the WM line? What was your opinion of the WM vs. the WG line?


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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128901
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Originally Posted by Delphian2001
From my research, Knabe used to be one of the most prestigious American piano makers. I'm aware that the company is now under Samick ownership and most of their pianos under this brand are now made in Indonesia. I'm interested in their current Baltimore line as it seems it offers decent quality and craftsmanship at reasonable price point.


Just to clarify......the fact that "Knabe used to be one of the most prestigious American piano makers" has absolutely nothing to do with the design and build quality of the entry level pianos being produced by Samick using the Knabe name. The Knabe "name" is currently under Samick ownership but the "company" is long gone.


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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128907
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carey, that's absolute true. I just mentioned in my post to show that I did do my homework with the brand to be aware that the brand Knabe today is not the same as it was and have no illusion of its glorious past. I'm also aware that the Knabe's GW line is their entry level line. I'm just hoping there are owners/dealers in this forum that have experience with their GW pianos to give me opinions whether this is a decent grand piano line to compare to the low end of Yamaha's and Kawai's, i.e. GB1 and GM10.

Jolly/Rich, thanks for your input and I appreciate your opinions as I see you are veterans of this board.

Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128914
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Carey,

I thought (I'm away from my copy of the piano buyer right now on a smartphone) that some of the current Knabe pianos borrow some of the scaling/designs from the old Baltimore models. I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading it somewhere...


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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128920
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Originally Posted by Delphian2001
carey, that's absolute true. I just mentioned in my post to show that I did do my homework with the brand to be aware that the brand Knabe today is not the same as it was and have no illusion of its glorious past. I'm also aware that the Knabe's GW line is their entry level line. I'm just hoping there are owners/dealers in this forum that have experience with their GW pianos to give me opinions whether this is a decent grand piano line to compare to the low end of Yamaha's and Kawai's, i.e. GB1 and GM10.


This may (or may not) help !!

http://www.pianobuyer.com/spring13/45.html



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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: terminaldegree] #2128922
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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Carey,

I thought (I'm away from my copy of the piano buyer right now on a smartphone) that some of the current Knabe pianos borrow some of the scaling/designs from the old Baltimore models. I could be wrong, but I think I remember reading it somewhere...


Here's a link to the PB article - you're correct - but it's complicated.....and even with similar scaling/design, quality of components and build quality must still be considered. But then, I'm certainly no expert on the subject !! smile

http://www.pianobuyer.com/spring13/181.html



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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128929
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Thanks Carey for the pointers.

Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Delphian2001] #2128956
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I've never even seen one, but y'all are talking about the WKG series.

That's a different kettle of fish, so to speak. Some of the scales are similar to the old Knabe scales, but not all, if I understand correctly. I think this series of Knabe has some DNA from the old Samick World series.

These are supposed to compete with Yamaha and Kawai. The 52" WKG is on my short list of verticals I'd really like to try.

Perhaps Rich or Sam will chime in and tell us a bit more about the WKG pianos.


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Re: Your opinion on Wm. Knabe & Co pianos? [Re: Jolly] #2129297
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Originally Posted by Jolly
These are supposed to compete with Yamaha and Kawai. The 52" WKG is on my short list of verticals I'd really like to try.

Perhaps Rich or Sam will chime in and tell us a bit more about the WKG pianos.


Jolly,

A couple of years ago Andre Watts was in town. He lived in Philly for 12 years so he has friends here and I like to think of him as a friend to Cunningham as well.

Anyway, he stopped by with a local friend to help them choose an upright piano. They played names like Bosendorfer, Steinway, Mason, Yamaha, Bluthner, and others. At the end of the day, he recommended that his friend buy the Knabe WKG131. Here is a terrible picture of him signing the piano for his friend:

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I definitely recommend checking out this model Jolly!


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