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If money was not an issue, and finding the closest sound and feel to a grand piano was the goal, what digital piano would you buy and why?

This is hypothetical for now as I am very happy with my M & H grand. But, there may come a time when silent practicing would be a real plus. Yet, after the Mason & Hamlin, a digital piano has a hard act to follow. I've become spoiled. Or let us say, "very discriminating".


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VPC1 + Pianoteq

Its the V-piano without the obsolescence and unfixable modeling errors of the V-piano. And it has a better keyboard. Forget about samples. They have never worked, and never will.


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Samples "never worked and never will"??
Really? They work just fine here!

Can't you find something better to do than complain about the V ?
You sound like a broken record, droning on and on, singing the same, negative tune.
Opinions are fine. Informed opinions are better.
But rants offer nothing but a poor picture of the ranter.

RD700 is just another evolutionary dead end bad investment
Prices are going to collapse
I predict a lot of casio owners will be putting their units up for sale in the next few years.
What have the clowns in the conservatories and university produced?
Don't let the super satisfied Casio full meal deal people fool you.
And the prices of these "advanced" piano's are a joke.
Seems the rabid dp enthusiasts believe something ...
The Roland V-Piano! (that is currently collecting dust at the dealership)
The V-Piano is the most overhyped excuse of a piano on the planet. And the V-grand? Can't imagine a sucker who could be that slow to buy that abomination.
The Roland SuperNatural should be renamed SuperUnNatural.
Then it dawned on me. A fake piano is a consumer device. No wonder the warranties are all hokey.
The digital piano arms race is a racket to empty the bank accounts of fools.
The digitals all get wonderful reviews and yet at the same time they all suck.
The reason the 850 is so cheap, is that the consumer is playing a dangerous game here concerning support for warranty claims and how long parts will be available.
I informed my local Steinway dealer that I wouldn't pay more than $3000 cdn (including shipping) for a new Essex EUP108C. They said go away.


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If money weren't an issue then I'd get one of the Yamaha silent series.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...ntpianos/grand_pianos/c7x-sh/?mode=model


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I would put in a pianodisc midi system in an acoustic Steinway D and use it with Ivory2 SteinwayD as a digital piano smile .. you did say money is not an issue right?

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Originally Posted by Allan W.
If money weren't an issue then I'd get one of the Yamaha silent series.

http://usa.yamaha.com/products/musi...ntpianos/grand_pianos/c7x-sh/?mode=model


I agree with you. I just saw this video of it and I think the new samples they've used for the silent system sound great.




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dynamobt, I have read your post, here:

If money was not an issue, and finding the closest sound and feel to a grand piano was the goal, what digital piano would you buy and why?

This is hypothetical for now as I am very happy with my M & H grand. But, there may come a time when silent practicing would be a real plus. Yet, after the Mason & Hamlin, a digital piano has a hard act to follow. I've become spoiled. Or let us say, "very discriminating".

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So if you buy a digial, you will be disappointed because it is not remotely like an acoutic piano.

So, if you buy an acoustic piano, you will be disappointed it is not remotely like a digital piano and you will not be able to play it silently at 2:00 a.m or quietly.

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There is no digital that both sounds and feels like a grand.

Its high time to realize that the solution to 'silent practice' is *not* the nonsensical account emptying practice of buying whatever hopeless digital fad is in fashion.

The idiots in the acoustic piano biz need to realize that "cheaper" acoustics are not the answer to the ongoing piano sales drought, but instead providing soundproofing rooms.

Violinists don't put up with this electric madness, why do pianists fall for it?


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Violinists don't put up with this electric madness, why do pianists fall for it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electric_violinists


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I would second the Yamaha AG but a real Mason & Hamlim grand is a very tough act to follow. I wonder if a good solution for silent practice is to simply use a silent keyboard and let your imagination fill in the sound.

There are anecdotes of famous pianists practicing on such things while on the road.


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I looked at the Yamaha Avant Grand. For one, I had no idea something like that existed! Also had no idea that something without strings could cost that much!!! But, I did say that cost was not an issue! LOL

What do people think of the CA series Kawai digital pianos?

As for nothing being anywhere near like my Masaon & Hamilin, I kind of figured that. Thing is, that we are looking into retirement communities for the future. They say pianos are fine. But, what if we moved in and found that people complained? It would be nice if I thought there were options out there to allow me to continue to play no matter the circumstances. So, thanks for the suggestions!


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Originally Posted by dynamobt
If money was not an issue, and finding the closest sound and feel to a grand piano was the goal, what digital piano would you buy and why?

This is hypothetical for now as I am very happy with my M & H grand. But, there may come a time when silent practicing would be a real plus. Yet, after the Mason & Hamlin, a digital piano has a hard act to follow. I've become spoiled. Or let us say, "very discriminating".



Hi Dynamobt,

My parents have a 1927 Mason & Hamlin A model grand. Damn M & H are gorgeous pianos with wonderful tone. And they are hand-made right here, in my home state of MA.

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So, Tritium, are you going to come on the Piano World Mason & Hamlin tour?? (I figure I can threadjack my own thread!!)


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So, Tritium, are you going to come on the Piano World Mason & Hamlin tour?? (I figure I can threadjack my own thread!!)


LOL, what is the Piano World Mason & Hamlin tour?

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Check down a little lower on the general forum page and see that Piano World is running a tour of M & H on September 9th at 9am. It's free and lunch follows with chance to play some new M & H pianos!!!!

It's listed under "Tours, meetings and other gatherings" or something along that line


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Originally Posted by dynamobt
Check down a little lower on the general forum page and see that Piano World is running a tour of M & H on September 9th at 9am. It's free and lunch follows with chance to play some new M & H pianos!!!!

It's listed under "Tours, meetings and other gatherings" or something along that line


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Perhaps the Physispiano V100 ? Depending on how well it sounds over the speaker system they designed for the V100...

Purely for design, I like the CS10 a lot - much better than most other Polished Ebony "real" cabinet products of others, since in fact it IS a normal cabinet and you can easily completely hide the controls on the left side.

What if you could have a CS10 simply as a powered cabinet and attach your own laptop or Mac MINI to it with a good soft-piano that plays over the excellent speaker+ soundboard system. With touch curve editor of course. The absence of the internal engine could shave some cost. The fixed EQ stage in the amp/speaker system should stay of course to get a decent sound. VPC1 for people with thier own mixing and speaker setup / VPC-CS10 as an elegant all-in-one controller cabinet with even better GF. Just a thought...

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