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#2121457 - 07/22/13 09:28 AM Need recs for some church music.....  
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The organ where I am the piano accomp was killed when 'hit by lightning', so we are having to do all the services on piano. I have to sub for the organist in a few weeks and need some recs for piano works suitable for prelude, postlude etc. Do you have any faves you can mention?

No idea when the organ will be back in business or replaced. Prob. months.

Does anyone have a good piano arrangement of the Bach G String Air from the 3rd Suite? We expect a parishioner to pass on soon and I wanted to be ready with this in case I'm pitch hitting at the time. Or any other suitable PIANO suggestions for a funeral?

Thanks so much.

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#2121489 - 07/22/13 10:52 AM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: riley80]  
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Generally speaking, hymns who's lyrically content (i know many tunes have several sets of lyrics) matches that weeks readings are a great choice. You can also use the prelude to introduce the following weeks hymns, especially if it's something the congregation isn't familiar with.



Any of the standard funeral hymns work. You could also check out Ave Verum Corpus, Going Home (Dvorak New World theme), Panis Angelicus....

#2121514 - 07/22/13 12:15 PM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: riley80]  
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There are anthologies of piano music for church use that you can purchase on line....but in terms of specific works.....

Any of the slower Bach preludes and fugues from the WTC

The slower Bach Organ Chorale Preludes transcribed by Busoni for piano

Brahms Intermezzi (the slower, more pensive works like Opus 117 No. 1, Opus 118 No. 2, Opus 119 No. 1)

Frank - Prelude, Fugue and Variation Opus 18

Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata 1st movement (works every time)

Slower works by Schumann (Traumerei, Nachtstucke Opus 23, no 4, Romanze Opus 28 No. 2)

Schubert Impromptus (Opus 142 No. 2 for example)

Selected Chopin Nocturnes (again, the slower more pensive ones)

Slow movements from Mozart piano Sonatas

Grieg Lyric Pieces (again the slower ones)

The above selections work for preludes and offertories........

You can play loud, lively and majestic works for the Recessional - including hymn arrangements - but avoid things that sound too secular.




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#2121851 - 07/23/13 08:55 AM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: riley80]  
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This a great topic for me too because I was asked to play offertory and communion music during the summer.
Thank you Carey, Your list above helps me build repertoire for it.

I have a couple of questions. First - what to do with the size of the congregation. Sometimes there are lots of people and many times during the summer there aren't any(figuratively speaking). So what I thought of is to have several cut off points for small crowd. For example Brahms 118 #2 i will only play the first section for small crowd. Many here might frown about the idea but ... Bach English Suite #II Prelude is a bit too long for summer and I decided to hop from measure 44 to 154. Second - Title of the piece. I don't think Rach Elegie is appropriate because of the name, or is it okay? It's a beautiful music. What do you think? We have aged congregation. At this point I don't have so many church appropriate repertoire.



1) Bach c minor fantasy
2) Beethoven sonata g major 14 No. 2 (re do)
3) Chopin a flat major Ballade (schubert Impromptu A flat D935 No2)
4) Scriabin op11 prelude #2 and #14 (Re do #2, new #14)
5) Bartok. 4 old tunes and Scherzo)
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#2122060 - 07/23/13 07:03 PM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: FarmGirl]  
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Originally Posted by FarmGirl
I have a couple of questions. First - what to do with the size of the congregation. Sometimes there are lots of people and many times during the summer there aren't any(figuratively speaking). So what I thought of is to have several cut off points for small crowd. For example Brahms 118 #2 i will only play the first section for small crowd. Many here might frown about the idea but ... Bach English Suite #II Prelude is a bit too long for summer and I decided to hop from measure 44 to 154.


There's absolutely nothing wrong with what you've suggested. The vast majority of folks in your congregation won't know the difference anyway. As a church musician your role is to enhance the flow of worship - in which case the music itself should be subservient to the worship experience.

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Second - Title of the piece. I don't think Rach Elegie is appropriate because of the name, or is it okay? It's a beautiful music. What do you think? We have aged congregation. At this point I don't have so many church appropriate repertoire.


Personally I think it's OK. In literature, an Elegy is a mournful, melancholic poem such as a funeral song or lament for the dead. In music, however, the term denotes a musical work that is of a sad or somber nature. Thus, your aged congregation should be able to deal with it - assuming they're even paying attention to the printed bulletin. If you still have concerns, you could solve the problem by simply not printing the name of the piece in the church bulletin (just identify it as Prelude or Offertory). The Rach Elegie is a beautiful work - and I'm sure your congregation will enjoy it.



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#2122237 - 07/24/13 08:57 AM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: riley80]  
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Carey, good idea! I will not list the name of the Rach piece. If any member of the congregation complains the use of such music, I will give her the wonderful explanation you shared with me:). Thank you.



1) Bach c minor fantasy
2) Beethoven sonata g major 14 No. 2 (re do)
3) Chopin a flat major Ballade (schubert Impromptu A flat D935 No2)
4) Scriabin op11 prelude #2 and #14 (Re do #2, new #14)
5) Bartok. 4 old tunes and Scherzo)
#2122868 - 07/25/13 02:49 PM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: FarmGirl]  
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Size of cong only matters to me during offertory and communion.
I rattle of a lot of short items in the same key to get me thru communion.
I don't get your comment about the Elegy and the old congregation. Maybe i misunderstand. Do you publish the title of your prelude and postlude in the bulletin? AND if so, why would they care? I have played secular stuff during the communion, IF it's not well known as a secular piece.
At Xmas, I play unknown carols and always get a fave comment.

#2122966 - 07/25/13 06:17 PM Re: Need recs for some church music..... [Re: riley80]  
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Originally Posted by riley80
I don't get your comment about the Elegy and the old congregation. Maybe i misunderstand.



Since the term "elegy" is often associated with funerals and death, it might cause angst for some of the elder members of the congregation who are overly sensitive about such things. Again, I personally, don't think it is an issue. grin


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