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... discontinued ... researching the feasibility of a much lower cost version of the VAX77 with a target price of $1200

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/


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Well, that's too bad as it was a good new controller. Hopefully the company will continue and find ways to create other good products.

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Originally Posted by doremi
... discontinued ... researching the feasibility of a much lower cost version of the VAX77 with a target price of $1200

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/


Thanks for the news! Just wondering what will be sacrificed to get to that price point.

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$1200 VAX? Can I pre-order one? smile

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Originally Posted by Plinky88
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... discontinued ... researching the feasibility of a much lower cost version of the VAX77 with a target price of $1200

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/


Thanks for the news! Just wondering what will be sacrificed to get to that price point.


Hope they keep the "folding keyboard" design.


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... discontinued ... researching the feasibility of a much lower cost version of the VAX77 with a target price of $1200

http://www.infiniteresponse.com/


Thanks for the news! Just wondering what will be sacrificed to get to that price point.


Hope they keep the "folding keyboard" design.


It is one of the defining features of the VAX77 so I would expect they would keep the folding design. Then again, I know better than expect... smile

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Originally Posted by Bosendorff
Well, that's too bad as it was a good new controller. Hopefully the company will continue and find ways to create other good products.


New in the sense that it was around for over 5 years!

I guess they just weren't selling enough of them to stay afloat. A very boutique item. I wouldn't imagine a $1,200 version would have nearly the quality of the original. Maybe they are just preparing to get them made out of junk metal in South East Asia somewhere.

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What they actually made them? I thought the V77 was vapourware.

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Originally Posted by justpin
What they actually made them? I thought the V77 was vapourware.


They made'em alright! IIRC, I got the last remaining red one they produced. A real pity they're not gonna make them anymore like this as they're an awesome keyboard to own. They're not for everybody, but I love mine and it compliments my Nord perfectly.

Here's a link to pics of my humble rig............. no "feedback" about the X stand please!!!! blush

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What they actually made them? I thought the V77 was vapourware.


They made'em alright! IIRC, I got the last remaining red one they produced. A real pity they're not gonna make them anymore like this as they're an awesome keyboard to own. They're not for everybody, but I love mine and it compliments my Nord perfectly.

Here's a link to pics of my humble rig............. no "feedback" about the X stand please!!!! blush

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It really does look like a close relative of your Nord smile

So what is the action like to play? Most of us have never seen one, let alone played on one. What is it like for pianistic style?

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I had one for about a year. It had the heavy action and I upgraded it to an extra heavy. It is not really a great match for playing piano, the action is very smooth and consistant but no escapement and always felt like you were playing a bunch of springs, which I guess you were. I actually preferred my VMK176. I will say it was well made and looked like a work of art.

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Originally Posted by ClsscLib
Hope they keep the "folding keyboard" design.

That was the part I was hoping they would ditch. When folded the exposed key movements look really fragile. Seems they would need a hard shell case to protect them. And if it's got to fold why not go for 88 keys?

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Has anybody wondered about the $1200 price target yet? What will it be competing against? Are there currently any non-hammer-action controllers around in that ballpark?


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To my knowledge everything around that price range either has graded hammer action, or is a totally different animal, like a synth workstation with organ-type keys.

I believe VAX will still be in its own class. The only thing that drew me towards the old VAX77 was the accuracy of the sensors and the MIDI data sent out. Also it was highly praised by Stevie Wonder, calling it the best he'd ever touched (And Stevie plays, in addition to everything under the sun in seems, piano - so he should know a good action when he plays one, right?).

I hope they don't sacrifice sensor resolution and evenness of the keyboard as a whole. We'll see I guess. smile

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It really does look like a close relative of your Nord smile

So what is the action like to play? Most of us have never seen one, let alone played on one. What is it like for pianistic style? [/quote]

Hahaha......... yeah, it is really and it wasn't actually intentional. I'm almost afraid to play in public now because my Guitar, and both my Nord and Vax are pretty much all the same colour red! ..... as is a pair of shoes I own, but that's a different story.

As for the Action, it's quite different than anything else I've played regularly. I come from a classical background so had previously many years on a Bosendorfer grand which is kinda what I use for my benchmarks of keyboard feel - albeit somewhat at the extreme end (both in price and quality).

The action could probably best be described as a little shallow, but very nimble and extremely responsive to play. I can actually trill on a single key far quicker on the Vax than I can on any other keyboard I've used. The Action was available in 3 different "weights". I chose the "heavy" action which was said to offer the best trade-off between a waterfall (organ), Clav, and piano keyboard. There was a heavier action again, but I wanted to use mine for Organ or Clav parts so didn't want the extra weight. Comparing its action to that of the Nord, it's a lighter weight.

For playing piano only, it's definitely doable and I'm ok with it, but I'd think a lot of people would find it a little on the light side. Having said that, I discovered the most strange of things when playing - if I close my eyes when I play and just forget about the keyboard, I can play faster and more accurately on the Vax than on my Nord, but dynamics are slightly harder to master. they keys are textured a little like Roland does on some of their RD series instruments and I really like it.

From a digital instrument standpoint, it's hands-down the easiest keyboard for me to use, but that's possibly to do with me becoming used to it and subconsciously adapting my playing style / technique to work with it's keyboard action. I often use it to play the Nord sounds and it really comes into it's own in that reguard - especially with the Clav, Organ, and EP's.
by the way, it has polyphonic after-touch, a feature that's useless on DP's, but comes into it's own when used with Synth patches that support it.

Sorry that was a little long-winded, but I'm sure you get the idea. I really just hope they bring out something with the same or very similar keyboard action, because frankly, that's what sets it apart from the other keyboards out there.......oh yeah, of course, it's foldable too.





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Originally Posted by dewster
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Hope they keep the "folding keyboard" design.

That was the part I was hoping they would ditch. When folded the exposed key movements look really fragile. Seems they would need a hard shell case to protect them. And if it's got to fold why not go for 88 keys?


Dewster, I'm not sure if you've only seen pics or videos online or actually used one in the flesh, but the "guts" are recessed slightly and I've never had an issue with the exposed keys. Having said that, when packed in it's soft case, I place a piece of wooden board over the exposed end so as to avoid "accidental insertion of foreign bodies" into it's inner-workings.

it's worth noting that they're built like tanks (or were) and even the pitch-shift and mod wheels are metal.

If there'd been a model with 88 keys I think they may have sold more, but as you probably well know, this would have pushed the retail price up somewhat. I may be wrong, but there was also some discussion a long time ago about the chosen number of keys and I think that the 77 key model fits in an over-head stowage on Int'l flights whereas the 88 didn't.



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Originally Posted by Siriosys
Dewster, I'm not sure if you've only seen pics or videos online or actually used one in the flesh, but the "guts" are recessed slightly and I've never had an issue with the exposed keys. Having said that, when packed in it's soft case, I place a piece of wooden board over the exposed end so as to avoid "accidental insertion of foreign bodies" into it's inner-workings.

Thanks for that feedback! And, yes, I've only seen the VAX in videos where this protective wooden board isn't shown nor mentioned, so I'm wincing all the way through.

In your photos the VAX looks kind of like an unfinished prototype.


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