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#2120687 - 07/20/13 07:55 PM New to Piano.  
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Hi. My name is Steve. I've been playing about 2 weeks on a keyboard we have and using an Alfred's level 1 book. I was wondering if there are any practice regimens that anyone would recommend for someone who is completely new to this?


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#2120704 - 07/20/13 08:52 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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Hi, welcome Steve,

I would suggest not to over do it in the beginning and to practise for an half hour to an hour max each day. Building slowly up. Because you don't have a good technique yet and enough material to play. So not to long practise might prevent an injury. Or bad habits you need to unlearn in the future. But that's just my personal opinion. Just my two cents.

I also suggest to switch to at least a digital 88 weighted keys within 6 months if your keyboard doesn't have weighted keys and you want to play classical music or jazz.

If you want to learn fast. Try learning small chunks first by one hand only. Then learn it playing the other hand. Then combine both hands and play it VERY slow. Dead slow.

Oh and of course enjoy every baby step.

There's an Alfred level 1 book thread in this forum.... So you might want read that topic.


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#2120779 - 07/20/13 11:04 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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Welcome Steve, the Alfred series is very popular and I like it's format and easy to understand approach. If you can afford a teacher as well that is really invaluable and no less important than at the beginning.

I have a written practice schedule, I found if I didn't write it down I wouldn't keep to it. Now I have it written I still ignore it (mostly) but it does help.

There have been a few posts on this subject and if you type into the search box on the top left hand side of every forum page you can find a whole wealth of knowledge. If in doubt though there are people here who can guide you and there no dumb questions here so all the best on your journey.

This link is to a similar question you might have some of your answers here

Last edited by earlofmar; 07/20/13 11:06 PM.

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#2121000 - 07/21/13 01:10 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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My name is Carrie and I am new to this board this is my first post to this board and I want to make some interesting discussions for this . I hope that it would be really good for me to be on this board and I can enhance my knowledge. Thank you and regards.


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#2121281 - 07/21/13 11:03 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: carrie32]  
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Originally Posted by carrie32
My name is Carrie and I am new to this board this is my first post to this board and I want to make some interesting discussions for this . I hope that it would be really good for me to be on this board and I can enhance my knowledge. Thank you and regards.


Welcome.


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#2121284 - 07/21/13 11:09 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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I'd like to welcome both of you. Steve and Carrie.
Steve, they're carrying on quite a discussion on practicing on another thread. Or two.


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#2121670 - 07/22/13 09:10 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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Thanks for the welcomes. I believe I've decided on blocs of 15 minutes cumulatively equalling 2 to 3 hours per day.


Rom 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
#2121674 - 07/22/13 09:16 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: PaperClip]  
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Originally Posted by PaperClip
Hi, welcome Steve,

I would suggest not to over do it in the beginning and to practise for an half hour to an hour max each day. Building slowly up. Because you don't have a good technique yet and enough material to play. So not to long practise might prevent an injury. Or bad habits you need to unlearn in the future. But that's just my personal opinion. Just my two cents.

I also suggest to switch to at least a digital 88 weighted keys within 6 months if your keyboard doesn't have weighted keys and you want to play classical music or jazz.

If you want to learn fast. Try learning small chunks first by one hand only. Then learn it playing the other hand. Then combine both hands and play it VERY slow. Dead slow.

Oh and of course enjoy every baby step.

There's an Alfred level 1 book thread in this forum.... So you might want read that topic.


Thank you for the advice. This is generally how I've been going about it thus far. I'm a fairly experienced musician, just never with the piano to this point. As far as upgrading. The current keyboard we have is 76 keys, I believe, but not weighted. I plan on giving it a few months to ensure that I'm going to stick with it before I invest in anything more, but yes, digital piano is definitely the way I'll be going (I have a wife who is a professional musician to convince of the efficacy of such a purchase lol).


Rom 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
#2121675 - 07/22/13 09:19 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: earlofmar]  
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Originally Posted by earlofmar
Welcome Steve, the Alfred series is very popular and I like it's format and easy to understand approach. If you can afford a teacher as well that is really invaluable and no less important than at the beginning.

I have a written practice schedule, I found if I didn't write it down I wouldn't keep to it. Now I have it written I still ignore it (mostly) but it does help.

There have been a few posts on this subject and if you type into the search box on the top left hand side of every forum page you can find a whole wealth of knowledge. If in doubt though there are people here who can guide you and there no dumb questions here so all the best on your journey.

This link is to a similar question you might have some of your answers here


Thanks for the advice. I began working out a practice schedule last night that involves a couple of exercises and working on some pieces. This, after following some threads here to piano street and reading some of Bernhard's (sp?) threads there.

As far as a teacher, I'm not looking to spend much money on this currently, but I do plan on taking a lesson in a couple of months or so from a teacher around here and may schedule every so often lessons afterwards depending on how that goes.


Rom 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
#2121680 - 07/22/13 09:31 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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Steve, let me make a suggestion about practicing. It's not so much how much you practice as to how effective your practice is. I would review and be certain that you understand what the concept is on a particular page/unit of the Alfred book. Then as you practice, try your best to follow instructions, and be certain you understand what you are trying to accomplish. In addition, at each practice session you should be doing some type of technical exercise, 5-finger pattern, scales or chords. Practice your exercise diligently but carefully, trying to follow instructions and Listen! Become familiar with the tones and sounds of different intervals, chords, note patterns. You should be practicing some short simple pieces of music, or etudes, meaning music designed to help you learn the concepts. For these musical pieces practice two ways. One, play no stopping no matter what, just listening for good tones, for nice musical phrases. Then, play with spot practicing. Any place that's not sounding as good as others - repeat 3 times, 5 times, over and over until you feel it is correct. Practice the ending. It's nice to know the ending! Then, play all the way thru no stopping no matter what. Finally, if you have time, or at another practice session, try memorizing your current piece. That should get you started! You can break it up into multiple session per day, or different approaches day to day. But within one week's time, the current concept lesson should be well in hand. This is all laid out in the Alfred book. Just be certain to put together the bits (exercise, concept, etude). Let us know how it goes.

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#2121714 - 07/22/13 11:02 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: Joyce_dup1]  
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Originally Posted by Joyce_dup1
Steve, let me make a suggestion about practicing. It's not so much how much you practice as to how effective your practice is. I would review and be certain that you understand what the concept is on a particular page/unit of the Alfred book. Then as you practice, try your best to follow instructions, and be certain you understand what you are trying to accomplish. In addition, at each practice session you should be doing some type of technical exercise, 5-finger pattern, scales or chords. Practice your exercise diligently but carefully, trying to follow instructions and Listen! Become familiar with the tones and sounds of different intervals, chords, note patterns. You should be practicing some short simple pieces of music, or etudes, meaning music designed to help you learn the concepts. For these musical pieces practice two ways. One, play no stopping no matter what, just listening for good tones, for nice musical phrases. Then, play with spot practicing. Any place that's not sounding as good as others - repeat 3 times, 5 times, over and over until you feel it is correct. Practice the ending. It's nice to know the ending! Then, play all the way thru no stopping no matter what. Finally, if you have time, or at another practice session, try memorizing your current piece. That should get you started! You can break it up into multiple session per day, or different approaches day to day. But within one week's time, the current concept lesson should be well in hand. This is all laid out in the Alfred book. Just be certain to put together the bits (exercise, concept, etude). Let us know how it goes.


Thank you for the input Joyce. I have yet to come up on a portion of the book that has scales or straight chord progressions yet, however, I am doing a set of the Hanon exercises in there as part of my routine, but it's in straight C-major. I'm looking forward to getting towards the more advanced scales, etc. I also have another book that I'm learning straight pieces out of measure by measure which is more classical in nature.


Rom 10:9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
#2121940 - 07/23/13 01:47 PM Re: New to Piano. [Re: JSteve32]  
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Steve, an example of learning concepts might be to learn the pattern for the C Major scale. Starts with the keynote (tonic) than Whole step (W) and Half steps (H) like this: W W H W W W H. You can play any key on the piano, and then progress with that same pattern and you will be playing a major scale. In other words, try to always learn what's behind your practice, so it becomes more valuable and more usable. If you look at the Alfred book you will find that they explain this. The goal is to understand and incorporate. Good luck! It's a wonderful and amazing path that you're on.


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