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#2119962 - 07/19/13 01:37 AM Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18  
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My teacher assigned me Chopin's Grand Valse Brillante, Op. 18. However, I'm having a problem understanding measure 17 (measures 18 19 are similar).

Do I first play the half note and while holding it, do I play the 3 eighth notes at the end of the half note, giving all notes their full time value?

I would like to have the first 20 measures learned at slow play ready for next lesson.

Thanks bobpickle for loading the score for me[/font]
I hope this question makes sense.

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#2119996 - 07/19/13 02:57 AM Re: Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18 [Re: TwinkleStarLimbo]  
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#2120054 - 07/19/13 07:49 AM Re: Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18 [Re: TwinkleStarLimbo]  
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Yes, hold the half notes for their full duration, or as close as you can get. There will be a natural release with the last eighth note in each group. Note the accents on them too.


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#2120342 - 07/19/13 08:38 PM Re: Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18 [Re: TwinkleStarLimbo]  
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Andy is correct, of course. What he has not pointed out is that there are two voices going on in the RH in the bars in question. Each one needs to be brought out - thus, we have to hear the downward chromatic movement in the bottom line (Db - C - Cb - Bb - Bb - Ab - G) but it can't overpower the melody (Db - Bb - C - Bb - Ab - Cb - Ab - Bb - Ab - G, etc).


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#2120430 - 07/20/13 05:56 AM Re: Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18 [Re: TwinkleStarLimbo]  
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What hasn’t been said in a waltz that clips along at an energetic Vivo tempo ... is that the opening structure (containing the measures in question) is that of the typical Chopin duet motif ... a treble (mostly in blocky chords underpinned by single note harmonious steps in the bass ... but importantly with a sandwiched rhythmic punctuation in the middle.

Like a spot of relish to a hot dog.

Kind regards, btb

PS “similar” is not “the same”.

#2120747 - 07/20/13 10:04 PM Re: Chopin Valse Brillante Op. 18 [Re: btb]  
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Thanks so much for your responses. I assumed to treat them as separate voices but wanted to make sure that's what was called for, as I had not come across notation like that before.

So far, I'm having fun with this piece of music. It's really fun to play, even at my slow tempo right now.


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