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#2119850 - 07/18/13 08:13 PM Classical repertoire for skill building?  
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Hi everyone!

I've finally started to get into a practice routine and am trying to go back over some of the "basics" for skill building and a more solid foundation. This is all stuff I used to be able to play but seems a little challenging now! I've started with the Bach Two and Three part inventions, but I'm looking for some other suggestions. What have you guys enjoyed/had good learning luck with? I had thought of the Chopin Nocturnes as well, unless you guys think the preludes are a better learning experience in terms of skill work. Any more out of the box suggestions than I've thought of?


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#2119906 - 07/18/13 09:59 PM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Anne H]  
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I see some "works in progress" in your signature line, but what are some pieces you've learned recently to give us an idea where you're at (I'd use Bach's inventions, but these can be difficult to learn without a teacher and many attempt them prematurely)?


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#2119947 - 07/18/13 11:31 PM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Bobpickle]  
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The Ravel in my signature is a uh...long term project! I won't have it ready for ages.

I was previously at a SMP level 9/10 as a teenager, and I'm feeling pretty comfortable with SMP 6 and 7 pieces right now. It's definitely slower going, but doable.

I've played all of the Bach inventions before years ago, as well as most of the Chopin preludes. I've never tried any of his other stuff, but I know lots of it is good and pretty achievable. I sight read my way slowly through a Debussy Arabesque the other day, if that helps. I haven't been practicing with a plan in mind, so I don't have as many good examples as I'd like.


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#2120031 - 07/19/13 05:42 AM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Anne H]  
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Bear in mind. I know nothing. I'm just throwing this out...perhaps just for discussions sake.
I've read repeatedly that Mozart is great training. The best?


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#2120051 - 07/19/13 06:35 AM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Anne H]  
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I'm not saying this is what you need to do but it's a path I'm doing which appears to be working well:

1. Bach Inventions leading to Preludes (we did a few things from Anna Magdalena before the inventions). I love these and each one is great for voicing, hand independence and rhythm.

2. Sonatinas. We're just picking some more or less at random and tackling them. I'm on my fourth now. Pretty soon we'll move to Sonatas. The groundwork in classical sonata form is great for building up knowledge and technique for classical works.

3. Romantic and more modern literature. We're not setting a strict path here, picking and choosing. I've done a bunch of Chopin Preludes and a Waltz and am on my second Debussy as well as other things thrown into the mix.


  • Debussy - Le Petit Nègre, L. 114
  • Haydn - Sonata in Gm, Hob. XVI/44

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#2120247 - 07/19/13 04:04 PM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Andy Platt]  
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Thanks Andy, that's really helpful. Did you like any of the Sonatinas in particular? Which Debussy were you working on? I've been thinking of retackling some parts of The Children's Corner as part of this project later on down the road.


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#2120267 - 07/19/13 04:50 PM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Anne H]  
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Originally Posted by Anne H
Thanks Andy, that's really helpful. Did you like any of the Sonatinas in particular? Which Debussy were you working on? I've been thinking of retackling some parts of The Children's Corner as part of this project later on down the road.


These are the Sonatinas I've done:

a) Mozart K545. You can argue whether that's really a Sonatina; it's listed as a Sonata. In any case it was my first piece after starting lessons, years self taught and it was beyond me technically. It's probably the best piece of all the Sonatinas I've done but I would like to do it now, not three years ago wink

b) Clementi Op 36 No 4 (F major). Love, love, love it. Has a bunch of little technical things. To play well at speed was almost beyond me at the time but I just about did it. And the middle movement is fantastic.

c) Kuhlau Op 55 No 2 (G major). I picked this from the CD that comes with Alfred's Sonatina Album (all these pieces are in it). My teacher wasn't sure about it but she admitted it grew on her. Technically somewhere between the Clementi and the Mozart but by the time I did this one, things were getting easier.

d) Clementi Op 36 No 2 (G major). The one I'm doing now. We decided not to worry about technical difficulty, just pick one I liked and this is great. If I had to do it again, this would be first and the Mozart would be now. Swap a & d.


I did Debussy's Arabesque number #1 and am now working on Dr Gradus ad Parnassum (from Children's Corner). Eventually I'd like to do all the Children's Corner pieces I think.


  • Debussy - Le Petit Nègre, L. 114
  • Haydn - Sonata in Gm, Hob. XVI/44

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#2120291 - 07/19/13 05:58 PM Re: Classical repertoire for skill building? [Re: Andy Platt]  
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I've been thinking about Dr Gradus or Golliwog's from the Children's Corner as well! I've always really liked both of those. I'd forgotten about those Clementi pieces - I have a book of them lying around somewhere.


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