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#2116026 - 07/11/13 07:21 AM a question on manufacturer date discrepancy  
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hi all

I am looking at a "new" Kawai RX-2, with serial # 264xxxx. According to Kawai web site, 2012 should carry 2639000, which suggests this piano is made sometime in 2012 or later. However, underneath the piano, there is a sticker with print of "Made in Japan, 12/2011", is this normal or something to be concerned about? On top of that, the piano seems to be on the floor for quite a while, but still "new" ... I am a total newbie on this, and not sure how to interpret this. Any help/information would be appreciated.

Best,

Oliver

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#2116036 - 07/11/13 07:47 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Hello Oliver,

It is rare that a manufacturer puts a label on their piano like that. Interesting.

There are a couple things to consider. Not every manufacturer assigns the serial number at the same time and not every manufacturer considers a piano "complete" at the same time.

Is it considered done when the assembly is complete? Is it considered done when the final regulation and tunings are performed before the piano is crated? Is it considered done when it is crated? These points may have a few weeks or more between them. In most situations it would not make a difference, but if it was assembled on 12/28/11 this might be a little confusing.

I don't think there is anything to worry about.


Rich Galassini
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#2116047 - 07/11/13 08:17 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Hi Oliver,

As you can see below, I just purchased a new RX3 Blak. Hanging on the side of my piano (and strung around the lid stay) were 2 packets. One had the warranty and reg cards, the other had the info and inspection card filled out by the tech who actually worked on the piano at the factory! Kind of cool.

Anyway, there's the tech card with serial #, his signature, name, piano info and date on it. You could always call Kawai too, they'll tell you in a second.....blob

Oh.........where do you live? seems like a lot of dealers are cleaning out warehouses and consolidating/closing branches or stores. Clean outs usually bring older stock that's been sitting for one reason or another to the floor. Might not mean anything either, pianos ain't cheap! your area may take a while to move new pianos and that's why it sat.


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#2116074 - 07/11/13 09:51 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Sometimes individual parts of the piano (which were manufactured earlier) are stamped with a date that may not match up with the "official" year of completion. I think the Renner action on my Schimmel upright is dated a 6 months earlier than the completion of the piano.

Either way, this is a total non-issue in the case of your piano. Focus more on how it sounds, plays, and looks.


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#2116076 - 07/11/13 09:56 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Yes, a non-issue. A local Steinway dealer has a 2002 Model M in dark cherry that is new. Been on the floor for 11 years, and they are selling it for the 2002 price, so it's a good deal. Plays and sounds very nice. People must not like the veneer.


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#2116087 - 07/11/13 10:27 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Rich Galassini]  
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Originally Posted by Rich Galassini
Hello Oliver,

It is rare that a manufacturer puts a label on their piano like that. Interesting.

There are a couple things to consider. Not every manufacturer assigns the serial number at the same time and not every manufacturer considers a piano "complete" at the same time.

Is it considered done when the assembly is complete? Is it considered done when the final regulation and tunings are performed before the piano is crated? Is it considered done when it is crated? These points may have a few weeks or more between them. In most situations it would not make a difference, but if it was assembled on 12/28/11 this might be a little confusing.

I don't think there is anything to worry about.


Kawai does put a label on their new pianos with the month/year and country of manufacture. Locations for the verticals is on the upper center back; location on the grands is underneath on the treble side at the back of the keybed.

I agree, it's most likely nothing to be concerned about.


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#2116094 - 07/11/13 10:41 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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From the Kawai website: Serial numbers for different models are not always sequential, so actual date could vary.


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#2116506 - 07/12/13 06:44 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Thanks for all the helpful information, really really appreciated it.

Dealer offerred a $16,300 all included (tax,delivery, tuning). I don't play piano at all, buying for aspiring wife and kids, both are beginners, so we are not in a position to judge the quality of the sound professionally, this might be an overkill. From what I gather from this forum, this is a very good price, so I think I will "indulge" them and myself once ... :-)

Best,

Oliver

#2116509 - 07/12/13 06:56 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: M.O.P.]  
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Originally Posted by M.O.P.

Kawai does put a label on their new pianos with the month/year and country of manufacture.


Thanks Nancy.

I was not aware they did this.


Rich Galassini
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Phila, Pa.
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#2116536 - 07/12/13 08:18 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Oliver,

others mentioned this in many posts about the RX2, it's a superb instrument. You may never need another piano, it's that good.....blob.

ps......put the rx2 in the search box and you'll be amazed on the amount of info on this piano. Lot's of great recordings by memebers too....see lyricamudra (sp) and many others.


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#2116537 - 07/12/13 08:25 AM Re: a question on manufacturer date discrepancy [Re: Oliver Wang]  
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Enjoy your indulgence! Your wife and kids certainly will.

You have made a good choice and you can't complain about that price, either!


Marty in Minnesota

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