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#2114651 - 07/08/13 11:33 AM Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx?  
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RD700NX use PHAiii with non s escapement.
FP7F and FP80 use PHAiii with s escapement.
Which model is the best to go for classical music.

Edit : What does the letter " S " in both FP7f n FP80really mean?
Does it mean anything ?

I prefer high level of dynamic-range sounding .

I want to play like this kind of song and emotion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvxS_bJ0yOU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zvcifcEyXI

or any better digital piano?

thank you

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#2114669 - 07/08/13 12:10 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: kritpat]  
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Since i believe speakers are useless for classical music, my vote is for the RD700nx because of the superior studio grand that is not available in the FP80.

Frankly, I think the RD700nx is the "cheapest" dp that is usable for classical music. All the others are toys of some sort.

The specs on all these dp's are weird. You would think the casio 850 would be wonderful with 256 polyphony and 3 sensors but its a $1000 board so obviously going from specs is pretty much irrelevant.


I'm starting the solid wooden keys revolution in digital pianos. Get'em now or be square!
#2114682 - 07/08/13 12:52 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: kritpat]  
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I wouldn't worry about the escapement simulation. In my experience it's not a noticeable effect. My personal opinion is that it's mostly a marketing gimick. The speakers are also not a big deal because the speakers on the FP's are just not that great. If you are discriminating, you will either use headphones or your own external speakers.

So they are pretty much the same. The advantage of the RD, as StarvingLion mentions, is that it has the Studio Grand sound, which many forum members speak well of. I have played the FP7F but never had the privilege of playing the RD700NX. I personally have a hard time believing that the studio grand sound is worth the extra expense. My view is that no onboard sounds hold a candle so software pianos, and I am a user of the latter. So to me the important element of a piano is the action. In this respect I consider the FP7F, FP80, and RD700NX to be equals.

#2114688 - 07/08/13 01:06 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: kritpat]  
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Originally Posted by kritpat


or any better digital piano?



http://www.kawaius.com/main_links/digital/PRO_2010/mp10.html


KAWAI ES7 | ROLAND RD-800 | YAMAHA CP4 | YAMAHA STAGEPAS 400i | PRESONUS R65 & T10 | SHURE SRH1540 | SENNHEISER HD650 | K&M OMEGA
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#2114711 - 07/08/13 01:38 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: StarvingLion]  
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Originally Posted by StarvingLion
Since i believe speakers are useless for classical music, my vote is for the RD700nx because of the superior studio grand that is not available in the FP80.

Frankly, I think the RD700nx is the "cheapest" dp that is usable for classical music. All the others are toys of some sort.

The specs on all these dp's are weird. You would think the casio 850 would be wonderful with 256 polyphony and 3 sensors but its a $1000 board so obviously going from specs is pretty much irrelevant.


The FP-80 has much better built in speakers over the FP-7F though doesn't it?

Kawai MP10 sure seems really good.

#2114855 - 07/08/13 06:26 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: StarvingLion]  
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Originally Posted by StarvingLion
Frankly, I think the RD700nx is the "cheapest" dp that is usable for classical music. All the others are toys of some sort.

I too have the 700NX, but what about the Yamaha CP5? Its price is in the same ballpark.

#2114943 - 07/08/13 11:05 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: Enthusiast]  
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Originally Posted by Enthusiast
. . .
The FP-80 has much better built in speakers over the FP-7F though doesn't it?
. . .


PMFJI --


From the FP-80 specs:

Speakers
(8 (3-3/16 inches) x 12 cm (4-3/4 inches)) x 2 (with speaker box)
(5 (2 inches) x 12 cm (4-3/4 inches)) x 2

Two are 7 watts (each), two are 6 watts (each).


FP-7F:

Rated Power Output: 12W x 2

Speakers: 8 cm x 12 cm x 2 (with speaker box)


. Charles


. Charles
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PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
#2115021 - 07/09/13 04:00 AM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: Enthusiast]  
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You should also consider the Kawai ES7 if you a looking for a DP with on-board speakers. I find mine to be very good. I just read a couple reviews below that mention some comparisons between ES7, FP-7F, RD700nx, and FP-80.

Im a review junkie. I read as many reviews as I can before I buy anything (let alone DPs). However, beware that reviews can drive a man crazy especially when shopping DP's. Some comments can get in your head and entirely thwart your decision making process. You really need to play as many as you can. In the end, the best opinion is your own. Buy what sounds and feels best for you.

So, FWIW...

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/FP80BK/

http://www.guitarcenter.com/Roland-FP-80-Digital-Piano-109123802-i3068702.gc#customer-reviews


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#2115264 - 07/09/13 04:27 PM Re: Go for FP7F or FP80 or RD700nx? [Re: kritpat]  
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The Kawai Es 7 and the roland FP 80 are in the same level. I played both:Good piano sound, good touch,good action. good speakers. FP 80 has better EP sounds, more sounds and better rhithim session . I purchased the FP 80 and I am very happy, but the Kawai is a good choice too.


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