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og]I promise I won't bring this up again, but I can't stand it when someone starts a sentence with the word "so". It is a conjunction and is used to join two phrases. I'll be quiet now. (Bruce, where are you?)

Well, it seems to be sort of the new version of the colloquial "Well, ......."

I don't like it either. To me, it sounds stupid.


Well, and I thought that using 'so' to start a sentence is a typically American thing. Like getting your dates in the wrong order (MM/DD/YYYY instead of DD/MM/YYYY as it's done in every other country), mis-spelling words wink by removing letters ('favorite' instead of 'favourite' etc). And, oddest of all, "pulling the trigger" on something - which I thought meant you shot it to bits because you detested it, but no, it meant you actually bought it crazy.

So, now that I've got clarification, can we get back to using 'practising' as a verb, not 'practicing', which is an adjective?
(As a practicing musician, I love practising on the piano) grin .


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I promise I won't bring this up again, but I can't stand it when someone starts a sentence with the word "so". It is a conjunction and is used to join two phrases. I'll be quiet now. (Bruce, where are you?)


It isn't only a conjunction; it's one of those multipurpose words that functions in many ways.

Check out definition #5 here -

http://www.macmillandictionary.com/dictionary/american/so


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Correct me, if I'm wrong, but I believe "so" can be used not only as a conjunction, but an adverb, adjective, or interjection.



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Originally Posted by bennevis

Well, and I thought that using 'so' to start a sentence is a typically American thing. Like getting your dates in the wrong order (MM/DD/YYYY instead of DD/MM/YYYY as it's done in every other country)


The 'typically American' thing is not caring what is done in every other country. smile

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As long as we're not talking about Scarlatti anymore smile , here's a thoughtful article on the emergence of sentences that start with "so":

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/22/us/22iht-currents.html?_r=0


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Originally Posted by bennevis


Well, and I thought that using 'so' to start a sentence is a typically American thing. Like getting your dates in the wrong order (MM/DD/YYYY instead of DD/MM/YYYY as it's done in every other country)


I hate the way America does dates. When I was a kid, I always wrote it the other way, which makes so much more sense. Then just when I finally got used to doing it the month/day/year way, I went to England and got used to doing it the right way, and now I'm just all confused.

(However, I do like how America spells "favorite." It has less superfluous letters smile )

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I actually wrote a little Excel spreadsheet that quickly converts between K and L numbers, if anyone is interested.

wow really, that would be interesting to see!


I did that too, one day a few years ago, and I was going to post it... but it turns out Wikipedia beats us all to is. Here's the correlation between K, L and P (?) numbers.


I just use this converter:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/music/marinkyo/scarlatti/referenco.html.en



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Funny, I thought the use of 'so' to start a spoken sentence had always been common in New York, where I grew up. So sue me. smile


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(However, I do like how America spells "favorite." It has less superfluous letters smile )

Fewer. (Unless you mean the letters in "favorite" are superfluous to a smaller degree.)
We have Noah Webster to thank (or blame) for the spelling change.

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So, now that I've got clarification, can we get back to using 'practising' as a verb, not 'practicing', which is an adjective?
(As a practicing musician, I love practising on the piano) .

Thanks, I never heard of that distinction before. So would this be correct?: "Dr. Terwilliger has left his practice, having practised otorhinolaryngology for twenty years."



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Originally Posted by WinsomeAllegretto
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Well, and I thought that using 'so' to start a sentence is a typically American thing. Like getting your dates in the wrong order (MM/DD/YYYY instead of DD/MM/YYYY as it's done in every other country)


I hate the way America does dates. When I was a kid, I always wrote it the other way, which makes so much more sense. Then just when I finally got used to doing it the month/day/year way, I went to England and got used to doing it the right way, and now I'm just all confused.


I guess you would prefer to say "24, Scarlatti, K" rather than "K24, Scarlatti" or "Scarlatti, 24K"? smile

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I guess you would prefer to say "24, Scarlatti, K" rather than "K24, Scarlatti" or "Scarlatti, 24K"? smile


What does that have to do with the way one writes dates?


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[...] and they'll be like, "How quaint." smile

So, "and they'll be like" is even worse than "So, ...." shocked

I know! I was just pretending not to be old. ha

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
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[...] and they'll be like, "How quaint." smile

So, "and they'll be like" is even worse than "So, ...." shocked

I know! I was just pretending not to be old. ha


So, you did a great job of it! smile



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So, now that I've got clarification, can we get back to using 'practising' as a verb, not 'practicing', which is an adjective?
(As a practicing musician, I love practising on the piano) .

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Thanks, I never heard of that distinction before. So would this be correct?: "Dr. Terwilliger has left his practice, having practised otorhinolaryngology for twenty years."


This is only true in British English. In American English, "practice" is correct for both noun and verb. See http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/practice


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So, now that I've got clarification, can we get back to using 'practising' as a verb, not 'practicing', which is an adjective?
(As a practicing musician, I love practising on the piano) .

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Thanks, I never heard of that distinction before. So would this be correct?: "Dr. Terwilliger has left his practice, having practised otorhinolaryngology for twenty years."


This is only true in British English. In American English, "practice" is correct for both noun and verb. See http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/practice


I see, the practice of using 'practice' for "practise" is another American practice.

So, well, would I be correct in assuming that the practice of having your dates back-to-front stems from the American way of saying 'July the Fourth', rather than the Queen's way of saying "the Fourth of July"? grin


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Originally Posted by bennevis
So, well, would I be correct in assuming that the practice of having your dates back-to-front stems from the American way of saying 'July the Fourth', rather than the Queen's way of saying "the Fourth of July"? grin

So, like.......no. grin

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Originally Posted by bennevis

So, well, would I be correct in assuming that the practice of having your dates back-to-front stems from the American way of saying 'July the Fourth', rather than the Queen's way of saying "the Fourth of July"? grin


Most Americans say "4th of July". Most Americans write "July 4th". Most Americans don't know the significance of the date. smile

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Originally Posted by didyougethathing
I actually wrote a little Excel spreadsheet that quickly converts between K and L numbers, if anyone is interested.

wow really, that would be interesting to see!


I did that too, one day a few years ago, and I was going to post it... but it turns out Wikipedia beats us all to is. Here's the correlation between K, L and P (?) numbers.


I just use this converter:

http://www.ne.jp/asahi/music/marinkyo/scarlatti/referenco.html.en




Looks like my work was all for naught! grin

I really did it as an Excel exercise when I was learning some more robust features. It does a similar thing and displays the key and tempo.

Here it is if anyone is interested:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwsmyf9ymmd0ds3/ScarlattiConverter.xlsx

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Originally Posted by didyougethathing
Originally Posted by outo


Looks like my work was all for naught! grin

I really did it as an Excel exercise when I was learning some more robust features. It does a similar thing and displays the key and tempo.

Here it is if anyone is interested:

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wwsmyf9ymmd0ds3/ScarlattiConverter.xlsx


If yours also has the key and tempo, I'd be very interested...would save me time looking for Sonatas for different purposes. But I don't have a mediafire account and it wants my credit card info even to open the free account. So do you think you PM me?

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so, this is a lovely thread, everyone! THANKS for the excel file!!!!

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