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Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 #2110202
06/29/13 02:07 PM
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Hi all,

Am new to this forum and considering buying one of the two mentioned above. Would really appreciate some advice!

I am using this for leisurely piano playing only, so my main concerns are sound and touch most similar to a real piano. I have tried both in store and found both sound and touch comparable. I don't really care for the extras such as more voices or sound recording etc. I will simply be using this to play some songs on the piano function now and then.

As for space saving, I do like how I have the option to store up the P105 if I decide to move or need to make space at home, whereas the YDP-142 will be a permanent piece of furniture. For now it's not an issue. On the other hand, I also like how the YDP-142 has a sliding cover, bench already included whereas I will need to buy a dust cover and bench if I get the P-105 (then again these are minor issues)

The prices in my country are:
YDP-142
USD1025
Includes bench

P-105
USD750
Just for the piano only, no bench. Including stand costs USD880

Which one would you pick, and why?

Many thanks!

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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110394
06/29/13 11:52 PM
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FWIW --

If both of them use the Yamaha GHS action, they will feel similar when you play them.

Next things to compare:

. . . the sound generators;

. . . the amps and loudspeakers.

For myself, I'd get the one with better sound generator (if they're different).

If the sound generators are the same, I'd get the one with larger loudspeakers (preferably two-way [woofer + tweeter] loudspeakers), and more-powerful amps.

Question:

. . . How much importance does "portability" have, for you?

You can put a P105 over your shoulder (in a bag with a pedal in it), carry an X-stand in your other hand, and walk away.

. Charles


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110427
06/30/13 02:39 AM
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Hi Charles,

Had another think about it, I guess portability is not an issue anymore. I will be using this only at home and likely to disassemble once set up.

I will pick one of the two based on:
1) Quality
2) Value for money (based on the quality)

I checked the speakers and I'm not too sure what it means, but it seems like the P-105 has 4 speakers whereas the YDP-142 has 2 speakers only?

YDP-142
Price: US$1025
Keyboard: GHS
Tone Generation: Pure CF Sound Engine
Amplifier: 2 x 6w
Speakers: Oval 12 cm x 6 cm x 2

P-105
Price: US$880 (inclusive of the Yamaha stand)
Keyboard: GHS
Tone Generation: Pure CF Sound Engine
Amplifier: 2 x 7w
Speakers: 12 cm x 2 + 5 cm x 2

However, I heard that console types (ie. YDP-142) are generally longer lasting and better sound quality vs. slab types. Is this true?

Based on the specs above, they seem similar though?




Last edited by kay257; 06/30/13 02:40 AM.
Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110435
06/30/13 03:21 AM
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Soundwise, there'll be a small difference in favour of the P105 if only because of it`s direct speakers. In the console model they`ll be underneath. Can yo not try them thoroughly until you know for certain which you prefer?


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110463
06/30/13 05:46 AM
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Is the ydp 162 within your budget?

The differences in the p105 and ydp 142 on paper at least seems to be minimum.

The ydp-162 has the more expensive GH action, synthetic ivory keys and a better sound system (2 x 20W) speakers .

Amazon Internet price is around 1499us.

Might be worth the extra cash.

Keep in mind to get half pedaling for the p105 u gotta purchase the yamaha fc-3 pedal separately. It isn't that expensive though.

If the ydp 162 is out of your budget, and you want a nice cabinet style digital piano, it might be worth the extra for the ydp-141

You should compare it and decide for yourself which one is best for you.

Maybe the speaker placement and wooden cabinet in the ydp-141 may enhance the sound somehow?


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110501
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One other factor that you may wish to consider is that the P-105 may be easier to re-sell when you decide to upgrade to a better one. Console type pianos are often bulkier and need more room to transport them so buyers are less able to just come look at it and purchase it on the spot. That has become a strong consideration in my decisions now that I have been through that process a few times.



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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110708
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Interesting dmd . I never even thought of that.

Normally when I sell stuff I never make the exchange at home.

It feels risky inviting a stranger into your home.

Always make the exchange in a public area.

I will definitely consider this if I ever am gonna pull the trigger on a console type digital piano.



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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: dmd] #2110717
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Originally Posted by dmd
One other factor that you may wish to consider is that the P-105 may be easier to re-sell when you decide to upgrade to a better one. Console type pianos are often bulkier and need more room to transport them so buyers are less able to just come look at it and purchase it on the spot. That has become a strong consideration in my decisions now that I have been through that process a few times.



-I hear you- it was very easy to sell my P95 and Fatar controller via craigslist and put it in the car and meet the buyer in a public place.
OT- I see you have the 2i2i- I ended up with the UR22 just last week but am shopping for a new computer to hook it up to.
Staples had a decent deal on a laptop, but a non-user replaceable battery


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: PossumES8Krome61] #2110919
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Originally Posted by Possum SP280Krome
Originally Posted by dmd
One other factor that you may wish to consider is that the P-105 may be easier to re-sell when you decide to upgrade to a better one. Console type pianos are often bulkier and need more room to transport them so buyers are less able to just come look at it and purchase it on the spot. That has become a strong consideration in my decisions now that I have been through that process a few times.



-I hear you- it was very easy to sell my P95 and Fatar controller via craigslist and put it in the car and meet the buyer in a public place.
OT- I see you have the 2i2i- I ended up with the UR22 just last week but am shopping for a new computer to hook it up to.
Staples had a decent deal on a laptop, but a non-user replaceable battery


Do the audio interfaces really make a big difference ?

Or the built in soundcards in some motherboards should suffice.

What are the benefits of the external audio interfaces such as the 2i2i?

I'm just curious.


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2110920
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I forgot to mention that the f120 from roland is very closely priced to the ydp-142.

It's worth a try. D you have that model where you live ?


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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2111303
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Thanks for all the advice!

I decided to overlook portability and resale value and go with a YDP-142, given it seems like the touch and sound of both models is similar. As price difference is small (about USD100 as I would need to buy a bench for the P-105 bringing the total cost to USD 920 with original stand vs. USD1025 for the YDP-142), YDP-142 is visually more like a piano so seems like better value for money.

Delivering this Saturday, I hope I've made the right choice, fingers crossed!!

Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2111310
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@kay257,

Congratulations on your new YDP-142 as I believe you will find it has a responsive action and has a very good piano sound based upon the CFIIIS concert grand, just like the more expensive Clavinova's.

You also will receive the "50 Greats for the Piano" songbook which has a lot of great tunes you can play along with in practice.

Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2111312
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I was going to write and recommend the 142, but I see you've already made your decision. Congratulations! I have a 160 at my apartment, and a 140 to play at my mother's. (These models are about 4-5 years older than the 142/162 models). I do like the 160 better than the 140, but both are really nice instruments, and look nice. And I think the YDP pianos on the whole last for a really long time. The very first piano I ever bought was a YDP in 1999, it was a 101. It's now at my mother-in-law's house. Although the difference in technology between the 120 and the 140/160 is striking, the 101 still plays perfectly fine!

I hope you enjoy your new piano!

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Re: Yamaha YDP-142 vs. P-105 [Re: kay257] #2111354
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Congratulations on your purchase.

I'm sure you will be more than satisfied with your piano.



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