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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: BruceD] #1879138
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Originally Posted by BruceD
Does there have to be a "best"? And "best" by what/whose standards? There are many very good and excellent recordings which deserve to be listened to; I don't see what is served by trying to isolate a very - and totally - subjective "best."

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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Old Man] #1879153
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I certainly won't say it's the best, but the recording of both the 2nd and 3rd concertos by Yefim Bronfman, with Esa-Pekka Salonen conducting, is as solid as anyone's. Some have criticized his performance as too "genteel", but I disagree. Bronfman's a big guy, and I think he delivers all the power and passion Rachy would've wanted. The technical quality of the recording is equally excellent.


I've got that recording it is very good. I have a lot of respect for Yefim Bronfman. His Beethoven cycle with David Zinman is a favourite of mine too.



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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Old Man] #1879154
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Originally Posted by Old Man
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Just to try and redress the balance from my previous thread. What is the best version of Rachmaninovs piano concerto ?


Hey, knock it off with redressing the balance, and get busy with that next Molotov. This thread's got 17 replies and the previous "unbalanced" one's got 98. So much for balance. grin


I've got another one on its way !!..lol


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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: stores] #1879155
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Originally Posted by stores
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There are a few performers that I love with Rach 3, but Horowitz, simply owns the concerto. Even the later live recording with all the bad notes, etc. is so much better than anything else I've heard.


There is something magical about that version with Ormandy . I remember watching the live broadcast . It was very special.


I agree. It was, indeed, very special. I remember watching the same broadcast...I was riveted to that screen! Cheered like helll in the living room too!


Shame it isn't on YouTube. There is a version with Zubin Metha on there, but I would love to see that Ormandy broadcast....it was broadcast in simulcast by the BBC, I remember sitting there with my headphones on listening to the FM broadcast whilst watching the television.......how things have moved on!.........I was ecstatic too after the performance. I have the cd, it evokes those very special memories.


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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #1879239
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My favorites are Lazar Berman, Arcadi Volodos, and Denis Matuev.

Could we please put an end to these "Best", "Worst", "Greatest", "Fastest" et al threads? Perhaps "Your Favorite" or Your Most Enjoyable" would be better qualifiers.

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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #1881053
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Rubinstein once said that every interpretation brings sth new, sth exceptional. It does not have to be perfect but sometimes in those little differences there is a completely new world to discover. Thus, there is not any the best interpretations.

Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2094361
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Same as common sentiments, certain parts I like best from certain recordings, thus no "favourite" complete recording of the piece. But if I have to choose a complete recording of all three movements, I will choose, in no particular order, Ashkenazy's (1963), Horowitz's (1951) and Rachmaninoff's.

I'm not a Horowitz fanatic, but for this piece I gravitate back to him in the end after years of listening. More than anything else, VH had the ability to phrase pieces to clearly enunciate structures with points of climax, amplified further by his lengendary tone colours and imposing dynamics. This very well suited Rachmaninoff's own approach to composition concerning building pieces around "points of climax" to give them structure.

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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2094389
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My favorite is Horowitz from (I think) 1930.

Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2094414
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Re-posting my favourites:

(all live performances)

Kapell/MacMillan (1948)
Kapell/Heinze (1953)
Horowitz/Rodzinksi (1944) {unfortunately truncated}
Horowitz/Barbirolli (1941)
Bolet/Webb (1969)
Cherkassky/Schwarz (1957)
Janis/Munch (1957); the studio is quite different.


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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2094441
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Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2094465
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Well, since the thread has come back to life ...

This is from the finals of the Queen Elizabeth. Skip to 37'00" to go directly to Rach 3.

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Ashkenhazy and Fistoulari is my faviroute, although I like the Sokolov versions

Re: Best recorded version of Rachmaninov piano con no.3 [Re: Sir Monty Golfear] #2095197
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Has anyone besides Piano*Dad noticed that this thread is over a year old?


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Heard a newer version played by Valentina Lisitsa on NPR the other day. The announcer said that Valentina and her (husband?) took their life savings and invested it in their own production of the complete ensemble piano works of Rachmaninov (including the concertos of course). They happened to play #3 on the radio. I didn't get to hear all of it, but from what I heard, I think she made a sound investment.

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Speaking of Lisitsa, the June Gramophone reviewed her set of the Rachmaninov works for piano and orchestra. The reviewer closed with 'Lisitsa's fan base won't care to read about this release's virtues and drawbacks...'

Fair enough, I'll that one alone.

But earlier, the reviewer (Jed Distler) scored points with reference to the 3rd concerto '... her choice of the thicker, heavier and less musically satisfying cadenza option...'

Vindicated! Most will disagree, but that does not mean Distler is wrong.


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Originally Posted by erichlof
Heard a newer version played by Valentina Lisitsa on NPR the other day. The announcer said that Valentina and her (husband?) took their life savings and invested it in their own production of the complete ensemble piano works of Rachmaninov (including the concertos of course). They happened to play #3 on the radio. I didn't get to hear all of it, but from what I heard, I think she made a sound investment.


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My favorite is by Valentina Lisitsa and LSO. And I think her cadenza is amazing smile

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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Has anyone besides Piano*Dad noticed that this thread is over a year old?
Yes.

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Sokolov 1989 with Gergiev. Words can't even justify how great it is.

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Sokolovfan, please stop resurrecting these and try to limit your replies to recent threads.


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