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#2083215 - 05/15/13 05:05 PM I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ...  
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I have a Grotrian 6f3, I bought:

- a Leather Artist Bench Woodmaster Duet Size with Music Storage BN-1309 in leather from Vandaking.com at $479.

Pros: It's good to have a Duet Size
Cons: too stiff, not very comfortable, finition of leather is not great, I had to contact Vandaking to exchange leg because 1 leg is not fit, defects on leather.

- Pedal extension: I bought the most expensive and the best on market for my 6 year old son (around $275), he is now 8 years old. Great for kid, my son can sit with good posture, and we can use it for longer time because it can be adjusted to lowest height than any other pedal extensions.

- Piano cover: Though I ordered a so-called customized Grotrian at $ 275 but it looked so ugly and not fit at all, so I fixed it myself (recut the original cover) and paid extra $40 for a local tailor to sew it. It looks much better now.

My Grotrian had 3 touch-up voicings before a full tuning + regulation + voicing by Daniel Ene whose name was given to me by Grotrian headquarter in Germany as "our trusted technician in Los Angeles". The sound is now perfect because the piano was voiced to the family-room, and it was gradually voiced to avoid overdoing works.

However, the 6f3 size is not enough, still weak.

My wife organized a recital for her students and we rented a Bosendorfer 9f3 + a recital room. And this is the right piano at the right size for a family room.

The recital room is not big (maybe at max = 2.5 times of my family room) but the Bosie sounds perfectly there, and can play very softly like a whisper, meaning we can control it at any expected volume. It sounds so musical, especially in the right side, better than a 9 footer New York Steinway in a family (maybe Steinway would be better in concert hall because of its better projection).

Verdict: Bosie 9f3 would be our next piano when we win lottery.

PS: I consider string covers + Damp Chaser redundant for me, I want enough but not too much and think that overdoings kill the pleasure.



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#2083222 - 05/15/13 05:16 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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if room seem too big, can be easily adjusted with sound reflectors. you can make them for two hundred bucks.
this is how concert hall is designed.
let me know if you like to know further about sound reflectors. i am happy to offer you free advice.


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#2083266 - 05/15/13 06:33 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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Hoola,

I had to laugh. I did the same thing but a little different. quilted cover, string cover, pedal cover, pedal mat, (overpriced and not happy with) piano floor lamp, soundboard duster (yes, they make them), polishes up the gazoo and I haven't even had my first tuning yet!

I'm in LA too but close to the ocean so a damp chaser is a must. Between that and the string cover, my strings ought to be protected from salt air. The bench is a matching deal (with the Blak series) but I don't use it. I have a drummer's throne for my seat. I must agree with your comment about overdoing it though. It's just that it's such an investment I feel guilty if I don't do all this for it! I shouldn't complain, small investment in time prepping it for play then putting it away.......blob


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#2083277 - 05/15/13 07:08 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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My dear Blob,

Might I suggest that you add votive candles as you gaze from your throne at your enshrinement.

Just kidding and all in good fun!


Marty in Minnesota

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#2083357 - 05/15/13 10:41 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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Nice set up. After you get String Covers for your pianos, build a recording studio around them.


"Imagine it in all its primatic colorings, its counterpart in our souls - our souls that are great pianos whose strings, of honey and of steel, the divisions of the rainbow set twanging, loosing on the air great novels of adventure!" - William Carlos Williams
#2083510 - 05/16/13 05:01 AM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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Surprised, 6'3" should be pretty good for even big rooms. I have been in a pretty large room, about 30'x30' with a smaller grand and it was **way** too loud.

Now this was played by a concert pianist. At home I'm playing a 6'2 in a much smaller room and that is (just) acceptable volumewise exceppt when I start big sounding stuff like Rachmaninoff. Are the students maybe playing not so loud?


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#2083565 - 05/16/13 08:46 AM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Hey Marty,

lol......had it coming! I didn't realize how silly that sentence sounded until now. I've been a drummer my whole life and that's what they call a seat (a throne). Now if I truly had a castle, I would put Hoola's Bosie 9F3 in there or?


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#2083604 - 05/16/13 10:02 AM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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Hi Blob,

It was just too good to pass!

or? --- A Bosendorfer Imperial, perhaps. (and a Real Throne, not a collapsible swivel chair!)

grin


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#2083757 - 05/16/13 05:02 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: wouter79]  
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When building Utopia Kingdom in my family room, I don't need the best bells and whistles, but the requirements are endless for the piano(s).

My Grotrian 6f3 can be placed in the waiting room of Utopia Kingdom to warm up, but it can not pass the threshold of the Utopia Kingdom's gate.

The 9 f Steinway's growling bass is unsurpassable, so it is in.
But the 9f3 Bosendorfer's treble is the voice of heaven so it is in too.

Note:
- 9f3 Bosie list price is around 200K, 9 f Hambourg Steinway is less, 9 f NewYork Steinway's bass is more growling than the Hambourg and only at 134 K, so it is in too for the growling bass and its beautiful logo.

- One scenario is when playing one, I should put a wedge to keep sustaining pedal of two others in place to see & hear the harmonic vibration of two others, it would be fun.

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#2084058 - 05/17/13 08:40 AM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Hey Marty,

Yeah, I need a real throne and that Imperial grand works, good call! However, as king, I already have the last word around here, unfortunately it's "yes dear".


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#2084079 - 05/17/13 09:28 AM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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Marty in Minnesota

It's much easier to bash a Steinway than it is to play one.
#2085423 - 05/19/13 09:39 PM Re: I had all bells and whistles for my piano, next step ... [Re: hoola]  
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For Utopia, I'd have the Bosie Imperial, both the Hamburg and NY 9 ft Steinways, and a big Steingraeber in a concert hall size room with a concert-trained full-time RPT. Oh, and maybe the new 9 ft Yamaha CFX for some blues recording in the large entryway.

If you're gonna dream......


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