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Bratty kids with attitude #2081265 05/12/13 08:04 AM
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I teach a ten year old piano and he is really sassy at at times a bit of a brat. He has the tendency to complain and whinge to me whenever I tell him/ask him to do something - e.g. when I remind him to curve his fingers, or remind him about the distance in which he should sit at the piano, or when I assign theory - he sighs, he complains, he says "FINE!" I have said to him "I'm not doing this to pick on you, I care about your progress, I'm here to do my job and to make you play the piano better." He will often calm down and say I know, but he has the tendency to give me attitude. Do I just need to learn to laugh more, or would it be worth talking to his parents?

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Re: Bratty kids with attitude [Re: Nannerl Mozart] #2081271 05/12/13 08:27 AM
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I would immediately say, "I am your teacher and you are not permitted to speak to me that way. If you do so again, your lesson will be over and I will have a talk with your parents."

Then do so.


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Re: Bratty kids with attitude [Re: Minniemay] #2081380 05/12/13 11:56 AM
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When the parents sign the required Studio Policy, there is a page for the students to sign. It says basically that I promise to teach them what I know, and they promise to do their best to learn, to listen, to ask questions, to work hard. Specifically, it states about ten things that are not allowed, including No Whining, No saying "I can't", No Rudeness, No throwing things, No banging on the piano, No swearing, etc. Commonsense things. But once in awhile, I do pull out their signed copy and remind them that I will have to discuss it with their parents if the behavior does not immediately stop. I have had to do that only twice in 15 years. One student who just had a rotten attitude, pushing my hand away, talking over me, refusing to follow instructions. Talked to Mom and the behavior has not happened again. The second one was an autistic child who banged on my piano and broke a key! Mom offered to pay but through procrastication I never submitted the bill. Anyway, written agreements work! Try it!

Re: Bratty kids with attitude [Re: Nannerl Mozart] #2081400 05/12/13 12:59 PM
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You should teach him the proper response, now that he understands why you do it. Tell him he is to say, "Yes, ma'am." and then do it. If he doesn't understand what you're telling him to do, he may ask you to explain it further.


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Re: Bratty kids with attitude [Re: Nannerl Mozart] #2082354 05/14/13 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Nannerl Mozart
Do I just need to learn to laugh more...


That would be my reaction. Can't hurt, right? Making music is a joyful thing, maybe a chuckle now and then would help get that across.


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Re: Bratty kids with attitude [Re: Nannerl Mozart] #2082380 05/14/13 10:00 AM
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Plowboy, I think my approach to any personal experience is to wonder about the other side - it might be possible that I am taking myself too seriously, or it might be possible that this boy is arrogant - how does one ever know?

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Originally Posted by Joyce
including No Whining, No saying "I can't", No Rudeness, No throwing things, No banging on the piano, No swearing, etc. Commonsense things.


Joyce, I like your list. Do you mind share your whole list?
I like to include that in my policy for next year.

Many thanks!


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