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#2081088 - 05/11/13 11:12 PM My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench!  
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Hello!
I finally was able to get bench that matches my piano much better than the black one.
I wanted a step up in quality, looks and just to match the piano finish.
Thanks to my good friend Minnesota Marty , I got exactly what I wanted.
I almost went with a cheaper one but I am glad I did not.
This is not an expensive bench compared to other "high end" ones but I feel is a great alternative for people that want something better than entry level yet do not want to jump into a very expensive one.
I cannot say anything about how long it will last but at least I am impressed with what I see so far.
In normal living room lightning, the colors look closer than when the flash hits it.

Pros:
*Looks great!

*Feels solid and well built.

*Affordable.

*Easy to put together.

*Very comfortable (that part I was not even considering)

*No noises at all (thanks to Marty's tips on that!)

*The height is just about perfect and I love that I dont get the horrible look of mine when it is adjusted showing all the metal parts.

Cons:

*No Storage place..that was sad smirk

So, it gets my seal of approval if anyone wants to try it!
And of course...now follows my usual photo show laugh
Thanks!

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*Young Chang Y185 6'-1"

*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)

*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
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#2081136 - 05/12/13 01:03 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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It looks very nice, Shaolin. It matches your piano's color quite closely.

By the way, what is the make and model of your grand? I've never seen a piano in that burgundy/chocolate color before.

#2081138 - 05/12/13 01:11 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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It is a Young Chang Y185 and is it is Red Mahogany but it is very dark and I love it..just not easy to find close matches to it. smile
Thanks!


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*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)

*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
#2081238 - 05/12/13 07:52 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Wow, and wow! What a gorgeous setting you have made for yourself, shaolin. Well done!

The new bench looks beautiful and comfy. Where did you get it? The bench that came with my Kawai CP209 is okay but when I lean too far to the treble, it gives a decided, *grooaan*! (Probably bearing too much weight. blush ) Very annoying, and usually breaks my concentration and "mood".


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#2081250 - 05/12/13 08:19 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Greetings,
Looks good, but the pictures that really tell the story are of the underside. Why not flip it over and show us what the mechanism looks like?
Regards,

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#2081322 - 05/12/13 10:56 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Shaolin,

How are the auralex tiles working out? I would have put them closer to ear level when you're sitting at the piano but that's a small difference. Did you do anything to the BIG wall on the other side of the railing?

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#2081366 - 05/12/13 12:19 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: KurtZ]  
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Originally Posted by PattyP
Wow, and wow! What a gorgeous setting you have made for yourself, shaolin. Well done!

The new bench looks beautiful and comfy. Where did you get it? The bench that came with my Kawai CP209 is okay but when I lean too far to the treble, it gives a decided, *grooaan*! (Probably bearing too much weight. blush ) Very annoying, and usually breaks my concentration and "mood".


I got it from here:
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Thanks a lot for the kind words and yes, it makes me feel more relax when playing now.


Originally Posted by Ed Foote
Greetings,
Looks good, but the pictures that really tell the story are of the underside. Why not flip it over and show us what the mechanism looks like?
Regards,

Sure, I will add a picture shortly.
Thanks

Originally Posted by KurtZ
Shaolin,

How are the auralex tiles working out? I would have put them closer to ear level when you're sitting at the piano but that's a small difference. Did you do anything to the BIG wall on the other side of the railing?

Kurt


Well I am not sure if those are doing as much since the piano is opening to the other wall. But still, after I added it, I perceived an increase in clarity. Placebo? Who knows. smile
In one of the pictures you can see a black panel on that wall you mentioned..I have 3 of those now. Those are from my HT room and I could hear the difference right away...clearer sound for sure. My plan is to get the same 3 panels but in a better matching color although somehow I am not totally disliking the black.
I will add a pic showing them.

Last edited by shaolin95; 05/12/13 12:20 PM.

*Young Chang Y185 6'-1"

*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)

*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
#2081382 - 05/12/13 01:02 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Nine months ago, I posted in a thread about benches, specifically Jansen. I had just purchased, unboxed, and assembled a Frederick bench which is identical to the one that Shaolin purchased. There was a lot of negative reaction about my choice. Let me add that I own two Jansen benches in addition to the Frederick. The implication was that it was a cheapo and wouldn't hold up.

My butt is on the bench daily for a minimum of four hours. It has been supporting a 6'2" guy who weighs in at 220 lbs. I have absolutely no complaints and have had no problems with it. No squeaks and no clicks. The vinyl shows no wear at all. Since I am the only one playing the piano, the mechanism on the bench hasn't been changed since the initial adjustment, though checking today, it works just fine.

Is it the same quality as a Jansen? No. Does it serve its purpose and look good doing it? Yes. Is a Kawai the same as a Steingraeber? No. Does a Kawai serve it's purpose well? Yes.

I just checked out the Jansen website and found something new listed. Looking very carefully and comparing the specs, it appears to be identical to the Frederick, but sold through Jansen. It is also more expensive that buying direct from Laabs Music.

Here is the quote from the Jansen site:

"We find this adjustable bench to be the best Chinese imported piano bench we've seen. While still not at the quality level of the American made Jansen Artist bench, in the $150-$400 price range, this is the number one bench on the market in our opinion, and we've seen nearly all that are available. In comparison to the other imports, it offers an extra thick and plush cushion, it is a larger bench in terms of it's dimensions, and above all it's a well constructed and attractive piano bench."

http://www.jansenpianobenches.com/concert_adjustablepianobench.html

So Shaolin, Enjoy your new bench and the room is looking great!

Last edited by Minnesota Marty; 05/13/13 08:43 PM. Reason: Dumbness when typing

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#2081407 - 05/12/13 02:16 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Thanks for that information Marty and wow, that bench does look identical to mine but a lot more money for it! Good find smile

I added the picture showing the bench underside and the side panels on my wall as requested.

Regards


*Young Chang Y185 6'-1"

*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)

*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
#2081634 - 05/13/13 12:01 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Nice! What is the purpose of those things on the wall?

#2081762 - 05/13/13 08:19 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: hotcat]  
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Originally Posted by hotcat
Nice! What is the purpose of those things on the wall?

Those are acoustic foams (and the panels on the right wall) to control the room sound reflections so I get a clearer sound.

Last edited by shaolin95; 05/13/13 08:20 AM.

*Young Chang Y185 6'-1"

*Baldwin Hamilton Studio '67 (gone)

*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
#2081850 - 05/13/13 11:26 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty


Here is the quote from the Jansen site:

"We find this adjustable bench to be the best Chinese imported piano bench we've seen. While still not at the quality level of the American made Jansen Artist bench, in the $150-$400 price range, this is the number one bench on the market in our opinion, and we've seen nearly all that are available. In comparison to the other imports, it offers an extra thick and plush cushion, it is a larger bench in terms of it's dimensions, and above all it's a well constructed and attractive piano bench."

http://www.jansenpianobenches.com/concert_adjustablepianobench.html


Hey Marty,

That is not actually the Jansen site. It is a bench retail site. I am about 99.9% certain that the actual Jansen company would not endorse that product.
Here is the Jansen site: http://www.pljansen.com/


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#2081856 - 05/13/13 11:36 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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How very bizarre!

I'm going to make a few phone calls to see if I can figure this out.


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#2081880 - 05/13/13 12:18 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Now this got interesting! Lets see what they say now. smile


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#2082088 - 05/13/13 08:14 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
...I has been supporting a 6'2" guy who weighs in at 220 lbs


I hope that this is a typo referring to the bench and that you is not supporting that 6'2" guy. The food bill alone would kill you. smile


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#2082109 - 05/13/13 08:43 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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OOPS! - I'll fix that.


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#2082161 - 05/13/13 10:39 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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The color's a great match for your (gorgeous) piano! I'd say you did very well indeed. smile


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#2082163 - 05/13/13 10:42 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: Monica K.]  
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Why thank you very much, Monica!
I am really happy how it is turning out and more to come. smile


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*Young Chang Y150 (Del F design) (gone)
#2082511 - 05/14/13 03:38 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
How very bizarre!

I'm going to make a few phone calls to see if I can figure this out.


Marty,

I called the Jansen people in Oshkosh, Wisconsin. They don't sell stuff directly to consumers; laymen will have to buy from a Jansen dealer.

That website you are referring to is NOT Jansen's own website. Jansen sells their product to the Jansenpianobench.com website, who then sells it to consumers.

What makes this arrangement REALLY bizarre is that the name "Jansen" appears in the website name, yet the Jansen company does not own the website! This website also sells products that are NOT made by Jansen, yet gives the appearance of Paul Jensen endorsing these non-Jansen products.

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Almaviva,

That's about what I found out. It seems that the Jansen company is not too bothered by this as the website sells lots of their products. They are very aware of other bench manufactures and didn't speak ill of any of them. They didn't counter the review of the Frederick bench as that was the statement of jansenpianobenches.com.

It all just makes me like my bench more! It's almost like a Mozart opera plot twist! Coloratura, any one?


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#2082656 - 05/14/13 08:22 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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Thanks for the review, shaolin! I just added this to my wish list on Amazon (you can add anything to that wish list - sold by Amazon or not) which is the default place my family goes to look for gifts for me!

Now if only my birthday or Christmas were coming up sooner.... wink


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#2082667 - 05/14/13 08:46 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: JeanieA]  
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Originally Posted by JeanieA
Thanks for the review, shaolin! I just added this to my wish list on Amazon (you can add anything to that wish list - sold by Amazon or not) which is the default place my family goes to look for gifts for me!

Now if only my birthday or Christmas were coming up sooner.... wink


You are welcome and I hope someone picks it up for you! smile


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#2083708 - 05/16/13 03:01 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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I have had this same bench for about 6 months and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Very sturdy, but (bad for me) also very heavy. Facing back surgery in July and having to sell it. If you live in Eastern NC, look it up on Craigslist. Hate to part with it, but I will not be able to lift it after surgery and for some time afterward.


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Originally Posted by bmbutler
I have had this same bench for about 6 months and have thoroughly enjoyed it. Very sturdy, but (bad for me) also very heavy. Facing back surgery in July and having to sell it. If you live in Eastern NC, look it up on Craigslist. Hate to part with it, but I will not be able to lift it after surgery and for some time afterward.


Just out of curiosity, why are you lifting your piano bench? Mine stays put pretty much all of the time. I might give it a nudge here or there, but no reason to ever lift it off the ground.

#2083774 - 05/16/13 05:33 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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My ex-girlfriend's violin is always in the box, I think that it is better for the violin which is much more weather sensitive than the piano.

#2083777 - 05/16/13 05:43 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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nice bench! i want one too laugh


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#2083779 - 05/16/13 05:50 PM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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They are also available on eBay with an "or best offer" listing. There are a number of color and finish variations to choose from. They are marketed from Jim Laabs Music where Shaolin purchased his bench. Me too.


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#2084999 - 05/19/13 12:42 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: shaolin95]  
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I think that in a true comparison, it would be nice to have an inverted view of the Jansen side by side with the Frederick. The engineer in me says that there is a world of difference between the two benches in terms of the mechanism itself. Other than that, wood is wood and vinyl is vinyl. I hope it serves you for a long time.

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Your room is looking so nice now, Shaolin. I particularly like the new artwork on the stair walls! ha

made you smile



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#2085119 - 05/19/13 09:04 AM Re: My new Frederick Adjustable Concert Series Tufted Bench! [Re: lilylady]  
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Originally Posted by Steven Y. A.
nice bench! i want one too laugh


haha thanks Steven! laugh
Originally Posted by John Pels
I think that in a true comparison, it would be nice to have an inverted view of the Jansen side by side with the Frederick. The engineer in me says that there is a world of difference between the two benches in terms of the mechanism itself. Other than that, wood is wood and vinyl is vinyl. I hope it serves you for a long time.


Yeah that would be nice to see how it looks. Never seen one of those.

Originally Posted by lilylady
Your room is looking so nice now, Shaolin. I particularly like the new artwork on the stair walls! ha

made you smile



Thanks, I stole them from my HT room laugh I must get some that match the rest of the decor soon, just wanetd to make sure they made a difference..and yes they do! laugh


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