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Those are the smaller speakers intended to project more towards the player. All in all there are 4 speakers.

Yep, specifically the Ab & A a +5 and 6th above middle C. It's on the 700NX with the Concert grand but not the Studio grand-very strange. That was a deal breaker for me with that board, I can't believe they missed that.

@Cmin; The side speakers are so close to speakers on top I cant see how much it would make for a big difference or experience. They should have just focused on two powerful speakers like a CP300 (2x30w), or even the new Korg280 (2x22w). I just have a feeling it's still going to have some of the LH distortion of the FP7F. However, it is still clever and innovating design. Looks great, but....

Quote : "More versatile SN pianos (without the dreaded metallic clanking mid range)"

Who said they changed anything in the AP presets ? Looks all the same to me ; no Super Natural V2 or something like that with changed and improved algorithms and/or new sample set (!)

Seems their milking the same basic set of SN sounds since SN was introduced. I hope I'm wrong and the AP is indeed improved and got rid of the artificial metallic ring...

Update on price : € 1799 over here (same as FP7F) - so that's not too bad.

Where???

So the FP-80 is an FP-7F with possibly better speakers. Probably with the same action and the same piano sound. Maybe with better EP's (badly needed, too). And the Hammond simulator is gone.

I wish Roland would hire someone with slightly better communcation skills to write their damn ads, though.

No, I think the tonewheel simulator is still in there.

Maybe it is, but all I can find is the phrase "essential organ tones".

Kawai James a.k.a "Roland James".... just a thought ;-)

Watch the FP-80 video, and you'll see a caption overlaid that mentions the tonewheel sim. The 80 also includes the rotary effect.

Well ..."our" KJ is probably very busy finishing up the new MP manuals at te moment in time for the Messe. Seems the FP' s need some more competition. I'm curious what will materialize from Kawai, Yamaha, Korg coming week. Roland has been underwhelming so far...

- New 'GX' series of grand pianos
- New 'CS' series of luxury digital pianos
- New 'CA15' entry-level piano-oriented digital piano
- New 'VPC1' virtual piano controller

Cheers,
James
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You forgot
- New 'MP' series of stage pianos

That's ok, we will wait with bated breath. Now please go back to finishing up those MP manuals for next week ;-)

...from Kawai, .....Yamaha AND Korg coming week.

And perhaps Roland kept a secret product update for the show itself (Fantom series long overdue).

But it could very well be all wishful thinking...hardware development doesn't seem to provide many surprises any more these days. Just slow - small incremental steps. Only surprising new boy in town is VPC1 in the Kawai family.

And perhaps PX5S will do a lot in the stage portable range - however tried PX150/ 350 and 850 today and I wasn't very impressed coming from Roland, Kurzweil, Kawai and previously the old Korg (with Yamaha keybed). Biggest advantage is weight. AP doesn't impress me despite all the AIR marketing talk. The keys are not bad , but really no match for the better Rolands , Yammies and Kawais. Pitty they don't have the PX5 on display yet. Would love to compare it to the other Casio's. Keys seem to vary in sturdiness depending on the cabinet they are in. Px850 felt much more sturdy and better than the same (?) keybed in the PX150 - which wobbles and clicks too much - perhaps due to the light, thin and cheap plastic case it is in.

@James: CS series is very nice by the way. Unfortunately just a 'little' bit above my budget. Especially CS10 - beautiful...

Cool. I can see the tonewheel editor on the display, too.

Has the effects engine on the FP-80 been improved?

I recall that the FP-7F wasn't terribly flexible in this regard - no options to select different effects etc.

James
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Well , delivery is still 13 weeks off (according to sites) and there's no manual yet, so we have to guess about that. My feeling says it's probably the same as the FP7F in terms of effects (and almost everything else). Improvements really seem to be only SN EP's , speakers and "Airplay" . No new AP , no 256 polyphony , no other fancy things to brag about. The FP7F was a good product, the FP-80 probably still is, but it doesn't impress in the list of improvements / changes / additions so far. Few extra sounds here, some design tweaks there and the rest mostly marketing talk. For new buyers just fine. For FP7F owners I see hardly any reason to upgrade...

It looks very similar to the FP-7F, except that you can adjust modulation speed for (presumably) existing non-selectable effects on certain tones. That is a small but welcome improvement, although a depth control would be more useful, IMO.

The Piano Designer, Rotary, EQ and Ambience (Reverb???) effects seem to be very similar to those in the 7F.


To put it mildly...

There is only one question: does it have Studio Grand?