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#2078530 - 05/06/13 07:56 PM Yamaha new cx series  
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I own a c6 Yamaha Grand and I was visiting my local dealer today. He had just received the new Yamaha c6x series. I played it and fell in love again. I really like my c6 but the action, sound and play ability of the new cx was superb. I was wondering if any one else has had the chance to play the new cx. In my opinion it is the finest piano Yamaha has ever introduced. Interested to see if any one else had a similar feeling or experience.

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#2078531 - 05/06/13 08:01 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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The first CX I played was so strident sounding that it was completely unenjoyable. Subsequent CX pianos I've seen left a more favorable impression, but at that price, I'd rather have an Estonia, Schimmel, or perhaps a M&H.

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Interesting. The cx I played was not strident at all but rather had a warm tone with excellent resonance. It was a real pleasure to play. Sound is so hard to describe and what sounds good to one person often does not sound good to another. That is why we are human and each of us have our own preferences. I also have a Masters in Music.

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#2078550 - 05/06/13 09:17 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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I played all the CX series when Yamaha unveiled them last year (C1X to C7X).

IMO, they begin to sound good from C3X on, and C6X and C7X are particularly impressive - but so they should be, for their size. Certainly, there aren't many competitors in the price bracket of the C7X in terms of sound.

I also played the CF4 and CF6, as well as the CFX, which are in a different category in terms of power (and price!) - probably too much so for the home, unless you have a concert hall......


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#2078588 - 05/06/13 11:00 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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i've had the pleasure of playing a c3x, c6x and cfx. the former and the latter were two of the finest pianos in their respective sizes i've ever played. the c6x was just uncrated and lacked the same je ne sais quoi, but it may have needed a bit more time to decant.

as a former longtime critic of yamaha pianos i have been fully converted... touch, build quality, reliability, consistency, tuning stability, and now, most importantly, quality of sound.

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Originally Posted by pianocritic
Interesting. The cx I played was not strident at all but rather had a warm tone with excellent resonance.


It should be noted that, although I did not particularly enjoy this piano, it was clearly evident to me that it was an upgrade over the traditional C series. With proper voicing, it would have been a nice piano.

#2078597 - 05/06/13 11:15 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: Entheo]  
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Originally Posted by Entheo
as a former longtime critic of yamaha pianos i have been fully converted... touch, build quality, reliability, consistency, tuning stability, and now, most importantly, quality of sound.

It's about time!

But at what price?


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#2078632 - 05/07/13 01:34 AM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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Originally Posted by pianocritic
I own a c6 Yamaha Grand and I was visiting my local dealer today. He had just received the new Yamaha c6x series. I played it and fell in love again. I really like my c6 but the action, sound and play ability of the new cx was superb. I was wondering if any one else has had the chance to play the new cx. In my opinion it is the finest piano Yamaha has ever introduced. Interested to see if any one else had a similar feeling or experience.


I've not yet had a chance to play one - BUT for what they cost, they should be superb !!


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#2078710 - 05/07/13 08:31 AM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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in yamaha's case, list price and selling price are two very different animals.

ps -- yamahas have always been capable of producing warm sound -- there's a reason pianists like richter & gould (and others) chose them. but they garnered a reputation as being a bright piano with a clear tone, ideal for pop and recording studios; and not unlike baldwins of old, that quality tended to be taken to the extreme.

i've posted this example before - my 2005 C7 - with very good mics, before i had it voiced down by my technician. i offer it as an example of a pre-X series that can hold its own (you'll need good headphones or speakers to appreciate of course):

https://www.box.com/s/0lia1ms5c3ri0l735409

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#2078720 - 05/07/13 08:50 AM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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I recently played both a C6x and C7x. The C7x was a really wonderful piano (the C6X was also quite nice). The action was quite good and was well-regulated. The tone of the piano is totally unlike other C7s. Very warm, with none of the brightness that Yamahas used to have out of the box. If I were in looking at pianos in this range, the C7x would be a serious contender.


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#2078796 - 05/07/13 11:45 AM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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I have tuned a C6X and a CFX. Both are pretty bright, which leads me to believe that brightness depends on the setup, rather than the model.


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#2078818 - 05/07/13 12:50 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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I got a chance to play a brand new c6 and c6x side by side.. The c6x definitely had a warmer richer tone to my ears.. But for the price, if rather have an Estonia or Schimmel as mentioned earlier. For resale purposes, I'd take the yamaha though .

#2078822 - 05/07/13 01:13 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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Based on the Fine SMP's I think the price of an Estonia, Schimmel, or Mason is considerably less than a Yamaha CX of equal size. This is not meant to imply one should not buy a Yamaha.

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#2078838 - 05/07/13 01:47 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Based on the Fine SMP's I think the price of an Estonia, Schimmel, or Mason is considerably less than a Yamaha CX of equal size. This is not meant to imply one should not buy a Yamaha.


I think you may be referring to the CF series. The CX has an SMP price lower than most all of the pianos you mention for equivalent sizes.


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#2078864 - 05/07/13 03:08 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: terminaldegree]  
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When I was shopping for a 6' piano, my final contenders came down to 4 in terms of good to high performance - the Brodmann 187, the Yamaha C3X, the Steinway Model A, and the Boesendorfer 185.

The Yamaha C3X (186) is 30 to 40% more than the Brodmann 187. I definitely thought the C3X is worth it, but I did like the Brodmann 187 quite a bit, and wouldn't mind having it at all, but the C3X has significantly better performance, and given Yamaha's reputation in other areas, it was an easy choice. The new Steinway Model A and new Boesendorfer 185CS were both more than 2X the price of the Yamaha C3X, the Steinway A being 2.5X. I thought the Boesendorfer was without a doubt better in every respect and the Steinway was in many ways better but not all areas but had a lot of potential. Anyway, I didn't want to pay 2X for the Bosie or 2.5X for the Steinway, so I have the C3X, and it's just amazing.

On my tech's second visit 4 months after the initial in-home prep, the worst part of the piano was only 3 cents flat from 4 months ago, and a lot of the piano was close to dead on or 1 cent off. We did some more voicing as the piano has brightened up a bit. I think over the next two years, my tech said he will help me tweak the C3X to come close to a high end instrument as the piano settles in. As raw piano goes, the CX series is pretty awesome. I'll be putting in 6 to 12 tunings over 2 to 3 years, and I won't miss not having that Bosie or Steinway. Heck I don't now, and I couldn't say that before with the constant exposure to my teacher' Steinway. Her piano made me realize how inadequate my previous piano was; not anymore.


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#2078898 - 05/07/13 04:30 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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This year, at the Musikmesse Frankfurt, I played on the C2X, C3X and C7X; all with SH silent system.

My opinion (or better: first impression):
The C2X is not significantly better than the C2. But not worse either.
I liked the C3X better than last year's C3XA. All in all it was rounder. Haven't played on a C3 yet.
The C7X was just amazing.

I couldn't find a significant difference in action between the smaller and bigger ones. Guess key length is overrated.

The SH silent system is wonderful. Sounds better than SG in my opinion.

Bottom line: The CX series is great. Probably among the best pianos you can get for the money.


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heres a vid I took at NAMM of a custom C3x.. I played it for half an hour as it was in an isolated room.. there was no one else in there to video me so I couldn't get a vid of the sound... (besides, I only had my iphone,so the sound would be awful)

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=iHKuRm-85RI[/video]

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Originally Posted by terminaldegree
Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Based on the Fine SMP's I think the price of an Estonia, Schimmel, or Mason is considerably less than a Yamaha CX of equal size. This is not meant to imply one should not buy a Yamaha.


I think you may be referring to the CF series. The CX has an SMP price lower than most all of the pianos you mention for equivalent sizes.
Yes. One reason I confused them is the largest concert grand is the CFX with both a F and an X. I wish they wouldn't put the number for the size in the second position in the CX series but in the third position for the CF series.

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It takes a Rosetta Stone to figure out Yamaha's identification system.


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#2078995 - 05/07/13 08:20 PM Re: Yamaha new cx series [Re: pianocritic]  
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I played a c3x and c6x last week. Very very impressed. I too could not tell much of a difference action-wise. Both are responsive and sensitive and even. A pleasure to play.

The c6x is imho a truly remarkable instrument. Tone and touch a benchmark for the price.

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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
It takes a Rosetta Stone to figure out Yamaha's identification system.


Here you go: Yamaha Grand Piano Series by Year


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Originally Posted by 4evrBeginR
Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
It takes a Rosetta Stone to figure out Yamaha's identification system.


Here you go: Yamaha Grand Piano Series by Year

I rest my case!


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Oh, I agreed with you before the trial!


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I am pleased that so many of you had a similar good experience with the new c6x Yamaha Grand as I did. It seemed to me that the piano responded a little better on the very soft passages I played versus the c6 that I own. It seemed to flow with great expression no matter what volume or speed that I was playing. Like many of you have commented a good technician can make a huge difference in your piano and how it sounds. Thanks to all of you for your input. I am enjoying this forum and all the great comments.


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