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#2076879 - 05/03/13 09:37 PM Re: A word to the wise [Re: Loren D]  
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The Levitan C-lever is usable on verticals, and Dan actually demonstrates it in one of his videos. I believe he says that he uses it on all tunings.

That being said, the advantages of the C-lever seem like they would be lost on a vertical piano, and it seems to me it would be harder use it in a comfortable position. I almost bought the C-lever, but I got the Levitan classic instead since I do predominantly uprights in my service area.

Thanks for the thread, by the way - it's a good reminder to us younger technicians too!

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#2077030 - 05/04/13 07:18 AM Re: A word to the wise [Re: BenP]  
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Originally Posted by BenP
The Levitan C-lever is usable on verticals, and Dan actually demonstrates it in one of his videos. I believe he says that he uses it on all tunings.

That being said, the advantages of the C-lever seem like they would be lost on a vertical piano, and it seems to me it would be harder use it in a comfortable position. I almost bought the C-lever, but I got the Levitan classic instead since I do predominantly uprights in my service area.

Thanks for the thread, by the way - it's a good reminder to us younger technicians too!


It works just as well on verticals as it does on grands, and I think the pin setting benefits apply equally to all pianos. Although, depending on the piano, I am sometimes holding it a little differently than Dan does in his demo video. I actually think it's easier to tune shorter and medium size consoles with the C-lever than a traditional lever, because it feels like there is less strain on your back. But I have yet to try it on a tall vertical like the Steingraeber 138 - in that case some of the tenor pins are positioned very high, and it may feel a little awkward. I will be tuning one of those soon and will report back.

It is also easier to switch tuning hands on a vertical using the C-lever than a trad lever, IMO.


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#2077039 - 05/04/13 07:57 AM Re: A word to the wise [Re: BenP]  
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Originally Posted by BenP
The Levitan C-lever is usable on verticals, and Dan actually demonstrates it in one of his videos. I believe he says that he uses it on all tunings.

That being said, the advantages of the C-lever seem like they would be lost on a vertical piano, and it seems to me it would be harder use it in a comfortable position. I almost bought the C-lever, but I got the Levitan classic instead since I do predominantly uprights in my service area.

Thanks for the thread, by the way - it's a good reminder to us younger technicians too!


I was shown how to use the weight of my body in the lever , for uprights.

A slow pull is necessary then, but the stress is limited.

Raising the anckle also seem not natural, but allow to use the arm's weight, free the shoulder and keep the back more straight.
Keep the shoulders low in any case (mean "not raised")

The playing hand wear if you play non musically. Karate and too strong totally useless unless you have very poor give.


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#2077366 - 05/04/13 07:53 PM Re: A word to the wise [Re: James Carney]  
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Originally Posted by James Carney
It works just as well on verticals as it does on grands, and I think the pin setting benefits apply equally to all pianos. Although, depending on the piano, I am sometimes holding it a little differently than Dan does in his demo video. I actually think it's easier to tune shorter and medium size consoles with the C-lever than a traditional lever, because it feels like there is less strain on your back. But I have yet to try it on a tall vertical like the Steingraeber 138 - in that case some of the tenor pins are positioned very high, and it may feel a little awkward. I will be tuning one of those soon and will report back.

It is also easier to switch tuning hands on a vertical using the C-lever than a trad lever, IMO.


Thanks for the info. I would very much like to try a C-lever on some verticals. I love Dan Levitan's tools (and his percussion compositions too!).


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#2090770 - 05/28/13 03:21 PM Re: A word to the wise [Re: Loren D]  
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I've been thinking about this a bit more. We're all getting older, so you are right... this does concern all of us.

Have you also investigated nutritional help?

I mean the usual suspects... glucosamine, MSM, etc.

Though my health issues are different from your, I am recovering nicely from my heart problems last year... surprising well according to my MD.

One thing I do now is to add some whey protein powder to my diet every day to try to make sure my body has enough raw material to repair itself.

Though the following may seem really odd, I've been using something called Willard Water off and on for many years. I think is is making a difference. Your overall health will also influence your ability to recover from injury as well.

An old 60 Minutes broadcast about Willard Water:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpsBijaOouU


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