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PIANO EXPERIMENT which one is real?
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This is one real piano and two fake (virtual instrument) which one is REAL?
https://soundcloud.com/robert-skrzypiec/pianos-experiment

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I am going to say third one. It sounded slightly out of tune in spots

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The middle one is the real one, just not miked as well as the other two.

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Recordings of my recent solo piano and piano/keyboard trio jazz standards.


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I'm waiting for my glory:) which one i the real (not vsti) instr. ?

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I agree with scepticalforumguy, the middle one (#2) is the real piano... just my .02. smile

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I cast my vote for #2 also.


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To me #1 sounds most realistic. Maybe it's just my imagination, but something just seems off about the decay of the notes in #2. #3 is my least favorite by far. I had a fairly tough deciding between #1 and #2 though. Whichever of those is actually the VSTi, I'd be interested in knowing which library it is.

Listening live, the difference between an acoustic and even a very good digital is obvious. It's much harder to tell from recordings because although they're "virtual" instruments, sample libraries are recordings of real pianos too, only processed a bit more. What this comparison does demonstrate (at least to me) is if your goal is to produce a recording, virtual instruments can be a good substitute for the real thing.

Of course, I only get to play on an acoustic once per week during my lesson, so most of my experience is on a digital - I wouldn't be shocked if I was wrong, and the acoustic owners above were correct in picking #2.

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The middle one. One o` the notes had THAT ring to it. But the resonance tail off suggests maybe not . .
They all sounded like software pianos, and good ones at that.


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#3, it's hard to capture the bass in a real piano and this one had less (though still plenty), the sound is also not compressed. The first 2 sounded a bit compressed and looking at the waveform they look more compressed. Whichever is real the tuning was superb.


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#3 sounded fairly realistic to me.


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I think #3 is the real piano.

1 didn't ring true at all like a piano in a can.
2 had a very un-natural sustain.


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All three seem to me the same fake piano played three times...

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Well a quick listening seems to show a different soundstage/stereo field from number 2 but not sure if that means anything.


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I'm voting for #3. It's a testament to the quality of digital pianos that it's not a slam-dunk easy decision among so many piano experts.

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I'm voting for #1 although my computer speakers leave much to be desired! There seemed to be complexity that the other 2 were lacking. I have to agree with Phil above, though, about the toughness of the choice. I'm far from 100% confidence in my vote!

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The second one sounds real to me through my laptop's little speakers.

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1st one is real, no doubt.


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They all sound great. Congrats.
Please share what instruments
and recording techniques you
used.

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They all sound like recordings to me.


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