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robipiano #2066908 04/19/13 04:39 AM
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From the Numaworld page:

"The Concert & Stage Grand sounds have been based on a source of 1GB studio quality 5 tracks digital recording of reference pianos preferred by top artists. The original recording included all 88 notes, captured by 5 close and surround studio microphones, played at multiple dynamic levels. Such accurate sound database has been reduced and mixed into a stereo 2 tracks (L/R) with hi-resolution and sampling rate.

The final sounds, both of the Concert Grand and Stage Grand, are based on 9 dynamic levels (from pianissimo to fortissimo) and the various layers are interpolated in real-time with cross-filtering and loudness parameters."

Rather vague; based on a 1GB recording / original (!) recording had 88 key-sampling / ...has been reduced and mixed into a stereo 2 tracks.

So what's in the machine in the end ? Still 1GB of sample material, or was that just the size of the first recording session and later on reduced and repacked and put into (presumably) 128MB memory ? Same goes for the 88 key sampling - has that been thinned and reduced as well for the final sample set ? I guess the translation from Italian to English causes this pretty vague description that can make the critical reader suspicious of what made it into to final instrument, but a cleared statement from Studiologic would help a lot.

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is doesn't sound like one small step for studiologic, one giant leap for piano players... does it?
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From the Numaworld page:

"The Concert & Stage Grand sounds have been based on a source of 1GB studio quality 5 tracks digital recording of reference pianos preferred by top artists. The original recording included all 88 notes, captured by 5 close and surround studio microphones, played at multiple dynamic levels. Such accurate sound database has been reduced and mixed into a stereo 2 tracks (L/R) with hi-resolution and sampling rate.

The final sounds, both of the Concert Grand and Stage Grand, are based on 9 dynamic levels (from pianissimo to fortissimo) and the various layers are interpolated in real-time with cross-filtering and loudness parameters."

Rather vague; based on a 1GB recording / original (!) recording had 88 key-sampling / ...has been reduced and mixed into a stereo 2 tracks.

So what's in the machine in the end ? Still 1GB of sample material, or was that just the size of the first recording session and later on reduced and repacked and put into (presumably) 128MB memory ? Same goes for the 88 key sampling - has that been thinned and reduced as well for the final sample set ? I guess the translation from Italian to English causes this pretty vague description that can make the critical reader suspicious of what made it into to final instrument, but a cleared statement from Studiologic would help a lot.


is doesn't sound like one small step for studiologic, one giant leap for digital piano players... does it?


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Well , the resulting Steinway grand (first preset) sounds good to me ...

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Originally Posted by JFP

Furthermore the local MusicStore price is € 1699 (incl 21% VAT), which is more than the list price in Italy for € 1499 (what's the tax in Italy ?)


1499 is the current price in Italy, VAT incl.


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robipiano #2093976 06/02/13 03:44 PM
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I took the German price. For me it would be € 1728. That is € 228 more than in Italy. For € 1499 it would be much much more interesting compared to the rest of the competition in stage piano's. Now it would cost more than an Fp-80 (street price); which offers much more sounds and features for the money.

Question:
- does anyone know if the basic piano samples in the Numa Concert are the same as in the Numa Piano. Meaning they only added a better keybed and some more sophisticated resonance processing ? Technically they seem identical, apart from the keys. Same control layout, same sound set, same memory and Trs algorithm . So, did SL indeed exchange the base sampleset for a new (better) set and if so, does that also count for the EP's and other sounds...

Perhaps a Numa Piano owner has more knowledge of this. SL / Fatar doesn't respond on any inquiries - do they ever ?! - and the store doesn't know. And ...of course the piano can not be seen or played anywhere unless you live near the well-known German web shop retailer.Which 95% of European customers do not...

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Haven't seen this demo before http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0uu2kmM3CM

Such an appealing instrument, but the company behind it is not.


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yet another video...
focused on showing off the sound ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-O5M4HUrQ8


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Oh dear! (And I don't mean the translation.)

Google translation of review


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Hard to read through the translation and an indication of what the Numa could (or could not) be. Always remember it is just one post / one opinion. Try for yourself in a shop is still the best way to verify if all is true or just personal preference , a Monday morning unit or both.

Nearest dealer that has one on display is 250km away. Bit to far to test it myself and write a review. Have no intention to buy one, just out of curiosity...

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