Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.7 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Best of Piano Buyer
 Best of Piano Buyer
(ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Who's Online Now
90 registered members (Beardog, Albert Brighten, baudelairepianist, agraffe, 36251, AnthonyPaulO, Bean23, 18 invisible), 1,484 guests, and 3 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 #2067369
04/19/13 10:48 PM
04/19/13 10:48 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
R
Raul Piano User Offline OP
Junior Member
Raul Piano User  Offline OP
Junior Member
R

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Hi

I'm looking at buying either the Casio CDP 220 or the PX 135. I'm a first time piano player looking to buy my first digital piano.

However I have one question that I can't seem to find the answer to, and I was hoping someone here might know.

The Casio website has a comparison tool that allows me to compare different pianos, and for...

1. CDP-220 - it says it has 700 built in tones. but the...
2. PX-135 - it says it has only 18 built in tones.

Does this mean the CDP-220 is a better piano?

I know it's not the only factor I should look, but just wondering what the difference was.

Thanks

(ad) ROLAND

Click Here

Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Raul Piano User] #2067392
04/20/13 12:18 AM
04/20/13 12:18 AM
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,836
Hamamatsu, Japan
Kawai James Online content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Kawai James  Online Content
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 14,836
Hamamatsu, Japan
More tones doesn't necessarily mean the instrument is better. I would personally prefer s small selection of good quality sounds than hundreds of sounds that are only so-so quality.

James
x


Employed by Kawai Japan, however the opinions I express are my own.
Nord Electro 3 & occasional rare groove player.

"I agree that the User Manual is very good." - arc7urus, March 2019
Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Kawai James] #2067399
04/20/13 12:31 AM
04/20/13 12:31 AM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,753
Richmond, BC, Canada
C
Charles Cohen Online content
4000 Post Club Member
Charles Cohen  Online Content
4000 Post Club Member
C

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 4,753
Richmond, BC, Canada
I tried out a PX-135 today. It's at Costco (Canada), $400 with stand and bench. If you're a beginner, with that budget, it's a reasonable choice (IMHO).

I think the action is one "generation" old, maybe the same as the Casio PX-130. But fully weighted keys, and quite playable. I think the sound decay was faster than on my PX-350, which would also point to "one generation old" for the sound-set. The loudspeakers are built into the body of the piano, and probably small and under-powered. If you want to know what it _really_ sounds like, bring headphones when you try it out.

"Quality" has nothing to do with "number of tones". The PX-350 has something around 200 tones (and rhythms, and accompaniment patterns, and other goodies). But the basic "Grand Giano" tones, which are what most people mostly play, are the same as those in the Casio PX-150, which only has 18 tones.

I'd like to know what the relationship is between the PX-135 and PX-130. Anyone ?

. Charles

PS -- After some searching, I found the Casio "piano comparison" page --

http://www.casio-intl.com/asia-mea/en/emi/compare/piano/result/

Two things about the CDP-220:

a) it uses an earlier keyboard mechanism, not as good as the PX-135/PX-130;

b) it uses an earlier sound generator, not as good as the PX-135/PX-130.

But it has loads of sounds, and the rhythm / accompaniment features that are in the (newer) PX-350.

_As a piano_, the PX-135 is probably a better choice than the CDP-220. The next step up (in the Casio line) would be a PX-150.

PPS -- the CDP-220 also has polyphony of 48 notes; the PX-135, 128 notes. Definitely "older generation".

Last edited by Charles Cohen; 04/20/13 01:05 AM.

. Charles
---------------------------
PX-350 / microKorg XL+ / Pianoteq / Lounge Lizard / Korg Wavedrum / EV ZXA1 speaker
Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Charles Cohen] #2067407
04/20/13 12:53 AM
04/20/13 12:53 AM
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
R
Raul Piano User Offline OP
Junior Member
Raul Piano User  Offline OP
Junior Member
R

Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2
Thanks, I'm looking at the Costco (Canada) PX-135 deal as well smile

(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Charles Cohen] #2067448
04/20/13 04:03 AM
04/20/13 04:03 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 189
C
CarloPiano Offline
Full Member
CarloPiano  Offline
Full Member
C

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 189
Originally Posted by Charles Cohen
I'd like to know what the relationship is between the PX-135 and PX-130. Anyone ?


AFAIK the 130 and 135 are almost identical. The only differences are:

- A slightly different color scheme
- The 135 has two additional piano tones (totally dispensable ones)

Every other features remain exactly the same (same action, speakers, tone generator...). They also feel quite the same. In many countries the 130 was substituted by the 135 and the price rose a bit. In other countries the PX-135 never was introduced and they stayed with the 130. I tried the 130 and when I finally decided to buy it a few months after it was substituted by the 135. I didn't notice any difference other than the 70+ eur I payed for the inclusion of the mellow and bright piano tones.

Asking the OP's question, I also think the 135 is a better piano than the CDP.

It's true that the PX-135 has been substituted by the new PX-150 but it's still a great instrument for the price and weight. It you can buy it, as I saw, by a significant lower price than a PX-150, it could be a good deal.

Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Raul Piano User] #2067508
04/20/13 08:36 AM
04/20/13 08:36 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,888
A
anotherscott Offline
4000 Post Club Member
anotherscott  Offline
4000 Post Club Member
A

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,888
I haven't played a CDP-220, but especially since you're a beginner, I think you might find all the bells and whistles of the CDP-220 to be fun to play with, compared to the stripped down PX-130/135. And while I agree with James in principle, that a small number of high quality tones is better than a huge library of so-so sounds, I think in this case, you're essentially comparing two instruments that both have so-so tones. So in this case, I'd probably go for the CDP-220. You can check it out at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMZ4dGUw8Z4

Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Raul Piano User] #2067525
04/20/13 09:13 AM
04/20/13 09:13 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,206
Rocky Mountains
R
rnaple Offline

Silver Supporter until April 24 2014
rnaple  Offline

Silver Supporter until April 24 2014

R

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,206
Rocky Mountains
I'd get the PX135. Or better...if you can afford it. Go ahead and get the newer PX150.

On my CDP. If I use the onboard sounds. The touch is lacking. The more I play the onboard sounds at one time. They seem to get tired. I've even had a couple times where I hit a key and....nothing. With the onboard sound...I play for a while and get to where I feel like a wounded water buffalo in heat. I'm just trying to make sure the key's actually play.
This is no reflection on Casio. Just the age of the design. I take it all of them were this lacking at that time.
When I use my CDP with IvoryII. It is a whole different story. This really isn't a bad keyboard at all. But I do imagine how much better the 150 is. Especially with the three sensors.

Last edited by rnaple; 04/20/13 09:22 AM.

Ron
Your brain is a sponge. Keep it wet. Mary Gae George
The focus of your personal practice is discipline. Not numbers. Scott Sonnon
[Linked Image][Linked Image]
Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: rnaple] #2067880
04/21/13 06:07 AM
04/21/13 06:07 AM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 504
Holmes Chapel
J
justpin Offline
500 Post Club Member
justpin  Offline
500 Post Club Member
J

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 504
Holmes Chapel
What are your thoughts on IvoryII?

I have a CDP200 gathering dust, and tbh after trying out other digital pianos it seems to be lacking in terms of sound quality even on the main pianos via headphones.

I've tried considerably more expensive pianos like the Roland RD700NX and P155s. But these are v expensive! I thought software might be an interim solution.

I can live with the touch of the CDP200, but the piano sounds as time goes on I can live with less and less.


Re: Casio CDP-220 vs. PX-135 [Re: Raul Piano User] #2067971
04/21/13 11:13 AM
04/21/13 11:13 AM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,206
Rocky Mountains
R
rnaple Offline

Silver Supporter until April 24 2014
rnaple  Offline

Silver Supporter until April 24 2014

R

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 2,206
Rocky Mountains
I like the IvoryII. I can't criticize it much, due to not having the best sound box interface. It is definitely better. Has tons of control over everything. Can change things. Touch curves, etc. Use a synthesizer in it. I've been told it's sound is better than an AvantGrand's sound. Also bear in mind you need good speakers and sound box.
The best preset on it I like is the Warm Bosendorfer Room.

I think you would be ahead of the game if you got it. Then, sometime in the future. You can do like I'm planning on and get a Kawai VPC.
I'm still waiting on the Kawai Software Piano. I love Kawai's sound. Hello? James? Are you awake? smile


Ron
Your brain is a sponge. Keep it wet. Mary Gae George
The focus of your personal practice is discipline. Not numbers. Scott Sonnon
[Linked Image][Linked Image]

Moderated by  Piano World 

Shop Our Online Store!
Shop Our Store Online
Shop PianoSupplies.com

Did you know Piano World has an online store, and that it's loaded with goodies pianists and music lovers want?
Check it out and place your order.

Special Purchase!
Keyboard and Roses Piano Bench Cushion Keyboard & Roses 14"x30" piano bench cushions Regularly sold for $79 to $100, now only $39. (while supplies last)

(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq Bechstein
(ad)
Faust Harrison Pianos
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways
New Topics - Multiple Forums
What PianoWorld has cost me...
by David B. 03/26/19 07:48 PM
Rock School Breakdown?
by stevechris. 03/26/19 05:07 PM
Which Yamaha model?
by Azzawaba. 03/26/19 04:48 PM
CP88
by quindecima. 03/26/19 04:37 PM
Story & Clark Console - Worth Investing in?
by Bean23. 03/26/19 04:19 PM
What's Hot!!
PIANO TEACHERS Please read this!
-------------------
European Tour for Piano Lovers
JOIN US FOR THE TOUR!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
Forum Statistics
Forums41
Topics191,148
Posts2,811,228
Members92,886
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Please Support Our Advertisers
Faust Harrison 100+ Steinways

Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver

Sweetwater

 Best of Piano Buyer

PianoTeq Bechstein
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2019 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.2