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#2064797 - 04/15/13 05:31 AM Liszt Concerto No.1  
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This is my first concerto experience with an orchestra. I hope you like it - the orchestra is not very good but I enjoyed playing with an orchestra very much.



"Schubert's music brings tears to our eyes, without any questioning of the soul: this is how stark and real is the way that the music strikes us."
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#2065096 - 04/15/13 05:28 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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Gone already?! I was looking forward to this. frown

#2065103 - 04/15/13 05:38 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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Beats me why someone would post a video, create a post encouraging users to watch it, and then delete the video less than 12 hours later (honestly, I have no idea when it was deleted, since I never tried to watch it-it could have been the minute it was posted).


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#2065282 - 04/16/13 12:59 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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I'm very sorry for this. It was a technical mistake. I'm reposting it.



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#2065285 - 04/16/13 01:04 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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All right, I'll take a look at it.


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#2065290 - 04/16/13 01:15 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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I'm typing this as I'm watching.

Orchestra is terrible, don't know how you can stand to play with them.

You play the opening quite well. It is much cleaner than some professional recordings I've heard. Your technique is definitely at the level of this piece, or more.

I'm not particularly impressed as musicality goes; I think maybe you'd sound better with a decent orchestra. Try to play more into the keys, and hear every note. Some of the octaves need to be practiced more.

Right now I'm watching the coda, with the descending chromatic octaves marked Presto. I think you could get even more passion and fire into those octaves. That passage should grab the listener's attention. Try to work on doing a big gradual crescendo through that whole last 30 seconds.

Keep working on it. You have the ability to play it extremely well. smile


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#2065331 - 04/16/13 02:53 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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Thank you Polyphonist. Actually I played this with an orchestra after studying the piece for three or four months. As I progressed I understood how it is difficult. I agree with all your critics. The orchestra, I believe, also affected my performance. But this is not an excuse. I have very much to do with this concerto. Thank you very much.


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#2065387 - 04/16/13 07:51 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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No problem.


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#2065398 - 04/16/13 08:23 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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It is a great pleasure to watch your progress over the last few years that you've been posting recordings. It must be quite thrilling to play such a piece even with a less than ideal orchestra. I wish you many musical successes in the future.

#2065566 - 04/16/13 01:25 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Beats me why someone would post a video, create a post encouraging users to watch it, and then delete the video less than 12 hours later (honestly, I have no idea when it was deleted, since I never tried to watch it-it could have been the minute it was posted).


Gee - give the kid a break - or at least the benefit of the doubt !! smile



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#2065569 - 04/16/13 01:27 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist

Orchestra is terrible, don't know how you can stand to play with them.

Not a particularly constructive comment. grin


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#2065573 - 04/16/13 01:33 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Carey]  
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Yeah.

Poly: I think you were being unduly hard on both on CanCakmur and the orchestra. I'd be happy to play with such an orchestra.

CanCakmur: You did very, very well. smile

#2065735 - 04/16/13 09:56 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Mark_C]  
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Poly: I think you were being unduly hard on both on CanCakmur and the orchestra. I'd be happy to play with such an orchestra.

I don't see why...I complimented him several times and gave fairly mild criticism, which is the accepted method of giving advice on recordings. The orchestra, well maybe. grin


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#2066059 - 04/17/13 03:12 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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This is a very promising performance. Especially only after four months.

I too think that a more into keys playing is required in the filigree passages. When practicing alone, one can play such passages with a light, over the keys touch. It might sound good and appropriate too at that time. But when playing with the orchestra, because of the sound of the orchestra, the pianist must play every note in those passages distinctly, firmly and a bit louder than practicing alone. So that they are not masked by the orchestra.
On a side note, I prefer a more still pianist when not playing.

I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already. Congratulations !



#2066276 - 04/17/13 11:21 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Hakki]  
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Originally Posted by Hakki
I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already.

You intended "not that it isn't considerably good already".


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#2066305 - 04/18/13 12:27 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by Hakki
I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already.

You intended "not that it isn't considerably good already".


Yes of course. Thanks for the correction.

#2066537 - 04/18/13 12:44 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by Hakki
I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already.

You intended "not that it isn't considerably good already".

The intended meaning of the statement was obvious. Typos happen.


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#2066794 - 04/18/13 10:20 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Carey]  
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Originally Posted by carey
Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by Hakki
I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already.

You intended "not that it isn't considerably good already".

The intended meaning of the statement was obvious. Typos happen.

If you had read the post directly before yours, you would have seen that this issue has already been resolved.


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#2066815 - 04/18/13 11:29 PM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: Polyphonist]  
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Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by carey
Originally Posted by Polyphonist
Originally Posted by Hakki
I am sure in time this work will get even better, not that it is considerably good already.

You intended "not that it isn't considerably good already".

The intended meaning of the statement was obvious. Typos happen.

If you had read the post directly before yours, you would have seen that this issue has already been resolved.

Of course I read the post directly before mine. The "issue" was one of your own making. The correction was not necessary. That's all. smile



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#2067045 - 04/19/13 10:44 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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Originally Posted by CanCakmur
This is my first concerto experience with an orchestra. I hope you like it =


I did like it. I think the part with the bicycle bell could have better flow, but I don't think that was on you. Good job!

#2068468 - 04/22/13 05:13 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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I want to thank you all for listening and evaluating my performance.


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#2078085 - 05/06/13 02:46 AM Re: Liszt Concerto No.1 [Re: CanCakmur]  
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This recording is so awesome.

Bump.

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