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#2063867 - 04/13/13 05:18 AM sad days  
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..............sad days

I am worried about my health.
I want to play the piano; but I can't.

I am worried about my spending.
I want to play the piano; but I can't.

I am worried about my lack of enthusiasm to play the piano.
I want to play the piano; but I can't.

I am worried about my music teacher.
I want to play the piano; but I can't.

I am worried about my piano playing.
I want to play the piano; but I can't.

I am worried.

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#2063872 - 04/13/13 06:08 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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sorry to hear your sad Michael 99. Hope things improve


Problems with piano are 90% psychological, the other 10% is in your head.

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#2063874 - 04/13/13 06:19 AM Re: sad days [Re: earlofmar]  
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No, No, No, please understand that it is a poem and often a pianist doesn't want to play the piano because there is something on their mind.


#2063889 - 04/13/13 07:40 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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Ya nearly had me fooled then Michael . . .blimey, what a turn round from "Always thinking about the piano"

I`m somewhere in between . . .


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#2064715 - 04/14/13 11:20 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I've been told by my teacher on a couple occasions that meditation is invaluable to a pianist/musician in helping them be able to focus and concentrate better; it also helps enormously with performance nerves. Ironically we think our lives are too busy to be able to include something like this in our daily routine, but one could argue that with the benefits it offers, we can't afford not to if we really strive to be more focused and efficient.


"[The trick to life isn't] just about living forever. The trick is still living with yourself forever."
#2064726 - 04/14/13 11:55 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I have found the 4 meditations that come with Effortless Mastery by Kenny Wener to be beneficial in winding down and feeling good about playing the piano.

Do you know of any audios (podcasts/meditations/relaxation) for musicians that can help reinvegorating,cheering up and refocusing when demotivated?

#2064728 - 04/14/13 11:58 PM Re: sad days [Re: Bobpickle]  
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Bobpickle, I have read your post, here:

I've been told by my teacher on a couple occasions that meditation is invaluable to a pianist/musician in helping them be able to focus and concentrate better; it also helps enormously with performance nerves. Ironically we think our lives are too busy to be able to include something like this in our daily routine, but one could argue that with the benefits it offers, we can't afford not to if we really strive to be more focused and efficient.

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Bobpickle,

Nice to see your post. I was doing a bit of poetry there, so it was posted in the context of a poem and not my particular circumstances or thoughts.


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#2064731 - 04/15/13 12:00 AM Re: sad days [Re: JosephAC]  
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Originally Posted by JosephAC

Do you know of any audios (podcasts/meditations/relaxation) for musicians that can help reinvegorating,cheering up and refocusing when demotivated?


How about the pianist making up their own?

Tutorial on improvising a simple meditation track:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6g6YYc0Nco


#2064733 - 04/15/13 12:20 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I can relate to this, also to your poem "Memory". I'm not sure about the sad part, but on days I'm back from work really tired, I find I've been wanting to get home so bad so I could play piano only to find myself home too exhausted mentally and sometimes just want to veg out in front of the TV instead. Once I drag myself onto the piano bench, I'm usually ok though.


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#2064745 - 04/15/13 12:46 AM Re: sad days [Re: 4evrBeginR]  
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4evrBeginR, I have read your post, here:

I can relate to this, also to your poem "Memory". I'm not sure about the sad part, but on days I'm back from work really tired, I find I've been wanting to get home so bad so I could play piano only to find myself home too exhausted mentally and sometimes just want to veg out in front of the TV instead. Once I drag myself onto the piano bench, I'm usually ok though.


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The error rate goes through the roof if I am not rested. Thirty minutes is about all I can do in terms of being focused, when learning a new piece. It could be age or my health, so I break up my playing time into smaller periods.

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#2064845 - 04/15/13 08:13 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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Wow. I feel the same exact way but still I persist. We can't let anything stop us. Can we?


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i call it the paino because its where i put all my pain
#2066597 - 04/18/13 03:11 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I am not trying to be one of “those” people but….

Today I am grateful that I have hands to play the piano and bass.

I am grateful I have legs so I can walk and do my workouts that I usually complain about.

Today I decided that I will never again allow myself to say anything to myself that will make me feel defeated. Such as “I can’t” (fill in the blank).

I’m not going to let anyone bring me down, especially myself!

I considered myself a relatively positive person. However, I realized that despite the many ways I thought I was being positive there were many ways I wasn’t. By telling myself “I can’t”, or beating myself up for not practicing enough or not being good enough. I would “fight” these thoughts thinking I was being positive by trying to counter them with a better thought. That was not the case. I was only creating a battle in my mind. This morning (literally) something shifted in me. I felt different in some way. I felt good, positive, better than I have in a long time. And that’s when I realized all those little seemingly innocent thoughts were nothing but negative little monsters that were trying to bring me down and I am not going to allow that to happen anymore. It’s strange because this didn’t feel like a conscious shift . It was more that I felt good and I wasn’t going to allow anything to spoil that for me. And sadly WE are often the ones doing this to ourselves with our own thoughts and the negative things we say to ourselves. I’m done with it. It’s funny because at first I wondered how long this will last and I realized it will last as long as I allow it.

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#2066608 - 04/18/13 03:26 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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That is sooooooooo true. We are our worst enemies. Intellectually, I know that' what matters most is not what has happened to us but our reactions to what happened' Yet, we bring ourself down. It seems that the 'will' to be positive runs out of steam, and we just slack hoping for a refill and re-bouncing. If not conscientious, these down lapses could last longer before a fresher outlook gains momentum.


#2069128 - 04/23/13 05:34 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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So how do you turn the negativity and frustration into constructive practice?

(Kind of an open question, with probably, no single answer...)

Regards.

#2069131 - 04/23/13 05:54 AM Re: sad days [Re: Randalthor]  
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Randalthor, I have your post, here:

So how do you turn the negativity and frustration into constructive practice?

(Kind of an open question, with probably, no single answer...)

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Learning to play the piano starts with one note and builds from there. There should be no frustration or negativity because, you the player, can and do control everything about playing the piano.

In sports, you are on a team and a lot of what happens is beyond your control. Sitting on a piano bench, you have all the control at your fingertips.

The only thing missing is a 48 weighted keyed piano/keyboard that is battery operated like a laptop and and you can take it with you - and you have pleasure-to-go.


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#2069145 - 04/23/13 06:48 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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Hi Michael,
Good advice. So its all about how your approach the keyboard and your mental outlook I guess?

Regards

#2069394 - 04/23/13 03:05 PM Re: sad days [Re: Randalthor]  
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Originally Posted by Randalthor
Hi Michael,
Good advice. So its all about how your approach the keyboard and your mental outlook I guess?


Yes, just like anything in life. If you approach something from the get-go with a negative attitude, your experience with it will most likely be a negative one (piano practice included). My teacher says to try and improvise away the anger/outside world at the keyboard, but I'm not yet at the point where I can comfortably do this. I'd suggest doing something else to completely calm yourself before sitting down at the keyboard, at which point, you should still always took a good two minutes before touching any keys and make sure you're not only calm and focused, but have a very specific and attainable goal in mind for that specific practice session.


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#2069575 - 04/23/13 08:55 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I suffer from depression and am being treated with anti-depressants. This helps and most of the time my mood is like anyone else's.

When something upsets me, a disagreement with my wife for example, I find the desire to play just evaporates. My energy level plummets.

Now, I have friends who can play from that low point, or write from that low (and I guess that's how a lot of great blues was written), but I can't. I have to wait till I feel a bit better.

Don't get me wrong, I am not a basket case. But I am one of those who's output is directly affected by my moods.

Sorry if this isn't much help, but it may give you some identification; you are not alone.
I can usually get myself going again by reminding myself that the day will come when I will regret having not practised.
And I know that once I start to play, I usually don't want to stop.

#2069749 - 04/24/13 04:02 AM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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I hear you PH. I've always thought I might have mild Depression, some just call me moody or introverted, but once I have chilled out, i'm normally much better.

I'm hoping that by being aware of this I can still learn to play, and i'm sure piano/keyboard will become the way I chill in the future.

Regards.

#2075056 - 05/01/13 02:26 PM Re: sad days [Re: Michael_99]  
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i am worried about worrying about not playing the piano


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