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#2057797 - 04/01/13 01:34 PM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: keystring]  
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Originally Posted by keystring

So supposing that you want to teach someone about minor keys, or scales, or chords, what might you do besides using happy/sad?


I often invoke pestilence, cancer, and income taxes.

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#2057805 - 04/01/13 01:42 PM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: pianopaws]  
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Correct. Students are only required to select one piece from the syllabus.


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#2057824 - 04/01/13 02:43 PM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: Minniemay]  
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Originally Posted by Minniemay
I disagree, Keystring. I think it has everything to do with emotion. I never use those terms when learning the concept. I try to engage the student in the expression of the music.

So you are actually aiming toward something different than those who use the analogy of "happy / sad" for being able to hear the quality difference between a major and minor scale or chord.

When you are dealing with the emotion of the piece, you would then be looking at everything that creates this emotion: harmony, mode, rhythm, tempo, contrast?

#2057831 - 04/01/13 02:54 PM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: musicpassion]  
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Originally Posted by musicpassion
Are there really teachers that do this? This doesn't match my experience. In my branch our recitals have a huge variety of music. Often I'll hear a new piece I've never heard before at our Branch recitals.

I visit 4-8 different branches per year for CM. I'm not exaggerating teachers' fixation on Kabalevsky.


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#2057901 - 04/01/13 04:36 PM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: keystring]  
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Originally Posted by keystring
Originally Posted by Minniemay
I disagree, Keystring. I think it has everything to do with emotion. I never use those terms when learning the concept. I try to engage the student in the expression of the music.

So you are actually aiming toward something different than those who use the analogy of "happy / sad" for being able to hear the quality difference between a major and minor scale or chord.


Hearing the difference is an ear training exercise, imo. I incorporate singing and work at the difference of the half-step.

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When you are dealing with the emotion of the piece, you would then be looking at everything that creates this emotion: harmony, mode, rhythm, tempo, contrast?


I employ a more visceral approach, I suppose. I don't necessarily equate the theoretical aspects with the emotional aspects, particularly with younger students. We might talk about moods or images that are evoked by what they hear. If they are old enough, I might tie it into how a composer manages to do that, but not necessarily. I want them to connect with the music beyond the black dots on the page.


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#2058131 - 04/02/13 02:54 AM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: AZNpiano]  
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Originally Posted by AZNpiano
Originally Posted by musicpassion
Are there really teachers that do this? This doesn't match my experience. In my branch our recitals have a huge variety of music. Often I'll hear a new piece I've never heard before at our Branch recitals.

I visit 4-8 different branches per year for CM. I'm not exaggerating teachers' fixation on Kabalevsky.


Wow. Ok.


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#2058220 - 04/02/13 09:41 AM Re: Thoughts on "teaching composers" [Re: Peter K. Mose]  
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Originally Posted by Peter K. Mose
Originally Posted by keystring

So supposing that you want to teach someone about minor keys, or scales, or chords, what might you do besides using happy/sad?


I often invoke pestilence, cancer, and income taxes.


Yin and yang?


Having power is not nearly as important as what you choose to do with it.
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