Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
Find a Professional
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Advertise on Piano World

What's Hot!!
NAMM 2018
-------------------
Forums With A View!
--------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Fall 2017
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


Who's Online Now
63 registered members (ando, Beakybird, Aspiring, blotchy, 16 invisible), 487 guests, and 5 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#2056003 - 03/29/13 01:06 AM A & R's Erlkönig  
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 21,041
BruceD Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
BruceD  Offline

Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 21,041
Victoria, BC
Has anyone seen Anderson & Roe's video of their two-piano transcription of Schubert's "Erlkönig"?

I'm at a loss for seriously critical words but "astounding," "brilliant artistry" "over-the-top," "bottom of the barrel," "trash," "ho-hum," "boring," or just "the usual A&R mess ..."

Fleeing Steinways (can you blame them?), breaking casters, stealthy but killer piano wires, carnivorous grands, enough perspiration to fill a bathroom sink, oil spills ... what? oil spills, you say? No, that's black vampire blood! Ooooh! Coolest!

Wow! What?

Last edited by BruceD; 03/29/13 01:10 AM.

BruceD
- - - - -
Estonia 190
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2056014 - 03/29/13 01:54 AM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169
beet31425 Offline
4000 Post Club Member
beet31425  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 4,169
Bay Area, CA
Here's a link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xH4uKPDAEE


I really want classical musicians to do things outside the usual ritual of performance. But I hate hate hate Anderson and Roe; I can't even stand to look at them when they play!

-J


Beethoven op.110, Chopin op.27/2, Liszt Vallée d'Obermann
#2056029 - 03/29/13 02:27 AM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,516
Nikolas Offline
6000 Post Club Member
Nikolas  Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,516
UK
1. I don't get it. What happened in the film? They got eaten by the pianos?

2. I didn't like the performance too much.

3. I also do not like A&R really that much. I did send them a link to my piano duets, but they didn't reply! grin

Really, I'm all in favor of doing a great video clip for classical music, after all why not? But this is over the top and rather ridiculous...

#2056170 - 03/29/13 10:15 AM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,636
Damon Offline
6000 Post Club Member
Damon  Offline
6000 Post Club Member

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 6,636
I didn't like it but I liked it. I don't care for that many camera angle cuts and some of the imagery didn't work for me but I'd like to see more efforts of this type.

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#2056244 - 03/29/13 12:14 PM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 21,041
BruceD Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
BruceD  Offline

Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: May 2001
Posts: 21,041
Victoria, BC
In some ways I think Anderson and Roe are a potentially very good piano duo. What I have not liked about their videos :
- many of the earlier videos are about Anderson and Roe more than they are about the music, as in : look how cute/clever we are!
- this latest video seems to be all about the imagery and, again, less about the music.

I think it's a shame that musicianship is marketed - I was going to say "wasted" - in this way.

On the other hand, there's always the argument that if this brings in more viewers of/listeners to classical music, then so much the better.

Regards,


BruceD
- - - - -
Estonia 190
#2056277 - 03/29/13 01:17 PM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Kreisler Offline
Kreisler  Offline


Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Iowa City, IA
Like A&R. Like the transcription. Like the performance.

Don't like the video. To be fair, I hate most current TV/film for the same reason - very fast cuts between scenes. The narrative is fine, and I like the campy "being devoured by the instrument" thing. But with almost every image lasting less than a second on screen, the story gets lost in the frenetic light show. I also wish the narrative would follow the piece a bit better. The piece is a dialogue between characters and the moment when each is speaking is very distinct. The characters in the music don't line up with the characters in the film, which means that the film actually makes more sense if you don't know what's going on in the music. (Or maybe the director was trying to line everything up and because the frenetic energy of the visuals, it doesn't read.)

After I minimized the window and gave it a second listen, it was far more enjoyable. smile


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
#2056321 - 03/29/13 02:44 PM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,912
wouter79 Offline
4000 Post Club Member
wouter79  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 4,912
It's this ?



Their playing is great.

But I prefer to hear a good singer instead of a piano for the voice part. I like Dieskau's version.

For the video, I like that they try something else. But this is a bit funny and messy, much shaky videos and unclear images. I like the shot at the end though where you see a hand disappear into the keyboard. But it all seems little related to the original.


[Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image][Linked Image]
#2056713 - 03/30/13 06:41 AM Re: A & R's Erlkönig [Re: BruceD]  
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,940
wr Offline
8000 Post Club Member
wr  Offline
8000 Post Club Member

Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 8,940
Haven't been able to bring myself to watch. For one thing, I think I may have an aversion to them based on some other video that was brought to our attention some time ago.

Basically, for classical music, I prefer fairly straightforward videos of the performance or else score-following videos. Just a static image or two that I don't feel any need to pay much attention to is fine, too, particularly for old recordings - a plain text graphic of the composer, title, and performer(s) does nicely. I think I actually hear a lot better if there is little visual input going on during a performance - I often close my eyes when I really want to concentrate on listening.



Moderated by  Brendan, Kreisler 

Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
CLEARANCE SPECIALS!
Save Big In our online store now

In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World)
our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, Digital Piano Dolly, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping* on Jansen Artist Piano Benches, Cocoweb Piano Lamps, Hidrau Hydraulic Piano Benches
(*free shipping within contiguous U.S. only)
(ad)
Pianist Magazine
Pianist Magazine - Issue 100
(ad)
SummerKeys
Maine Coast Music Vacation for Adults
(ad)
Pearl River & Ritmuller
Ritmuller Pianos
(ad)
Pianoteq
PianoTeq 6 Out now
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Internal sounds vs VST quality, can I tell?
by Timpskie. 02/24/18 06:22 AM
Piano Styles
by Love Musictc. 02/24/18 05:17 AM
How can digitals help in piano action evolution
by CyberGene. 02/24/18 02:38 AM
Finding a teacher
by Deus ex Pianoforte. 02/24/18 01:45 AM
Roland FP-30 deal
by mivaldes. 02/24/18 01:03 AM
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics184,414
Posts2,698,606
Members89,671
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers


 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2018 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0