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Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? #2054147
03/25/13 05:36 PM
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Very interesting article by Udo Steingraeber
Larry, Fine (2013)The Piano Book : The Piano Buyer (p. 81-82)

Computerized Manufacturing Inadequate for High-End Pianos:

*In the last 10years Steingraeber introduced 5 new grand designs (through the department of Experimental Physics at the University of Bayreuth)

*Last 5 years introduced Carbon-Fiber soundboard (with partner Richard Dain)

*Introduced Phoenix system and adjustable hitch pins (again with Richard Dain)

*SFM-Action (Steingraeber Ferrite Magnet Action) for upright pianos

*Half-Blow and Sordino(celeste)pedals

*And now for 2013 Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? WOW Can't wait until my father Fritz reports back from Bayreuth about this stunning new concept later this year.

Does anyone know more about this?

Jeff Tasch



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Re: Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? [Re: Grand Piano Haus] #2054557
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Originally Posted by Grand Piano Haus

*And now for 2013 Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? WOW Can't wait until my father Fritz reports back from Bayreuth about this stunning new concept later this year.

Does anyone know more about this?

Jeff Tasch



The trawling net seems to be empty at this point. If that continues and you literally can't wait, I'd suggest you use your leverage as a paying factory customer to pry the information from Udo Steingraeber.

Renner is treated with almost mystical respect in this forum, but in my playing experience the Renner actions claimed to be installed in different pianos are as varied in playing quality as the pianos themselves are varied in sound quality. I would never expect the Steingraeber people to skimp on quality however.

If it's not just a matter of recycled aluminum, please report back when your curiosity has been satisfied.


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Re: Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? [Re: Grand Piano Haus] #2054578
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Innovation is all fine and dandy if for nothing else but to perhaps instill a new sense of excitement into the industry.

In the final analysis however, all of it has to translate into a better piano, both in touch and sound.

Re the carbon-fibre soundboard I once was challenged by Udo few years ago to "identify the piano" with it, this among several other pianos in very same room.

I wasn't able to identify the piano: perhaps the point was rather to show "it's just as good" - point well taken.

Let's see if any of the other new designs will offer same or similar reflections in future.

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Re: Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? [Re: Grand Piano Haus] #2264934
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Any news about the RENNER-STEINGRAEBER alu action?

Re: Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? [Re: Grand Piano Haus] #2264973
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Originally Posted by Grand Piano Haus
... And now for 2013 Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? WOW Can't wait until my father Fritz reports back from Bayreuth about this stunning new concept later this year.

Does anyone know more about this?

Jeff Tasch

No back report from Bavaria or Baden-Wuerttemberg?
Not that it will be another composite action. grin

Re: Renner-Steingraeber-Alu-Action? [Re: Norbert] #2265125
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Norbert,
Durability, stability, and serviceability are also very important to determining relative value amongst competing pianos.

Except for W,N&G and LightHammer Piano, (that is me folks), no one has addressed this issue in any proven way.


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