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A piano named Gaveau #257581
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So I was watching the incomparable Georges Cziffra on YouTube (didn't it make the world a better place?)playing Chopin's polonaise (L'Heroique) on a lovely sounding "Gaveau" piano. I had never heard of this brand. A quick search revealed that this manufacturer was bought by Erard and then by Schimmel.
I am curious if anyone knows if this information is correct and if these pianos are still being manufactured under this name.. Perhaps someone has even played a Gaveau piano and could share their impression?
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A Gaveu piano features prominently in the book "The Piano Shop on the Left Bank" by T. E. Carhart. Anybody obsessed with pianos will probably enjoy the book.

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I immediately thought of _The Piano Shop on the Left Bank_, myself, and was going to recommend it! :p

In the book, as I recall, the Gaveau pianos were representative of a very sophisticated French sound that is slowly going out of this world as the remaining Gaveaus (and Pleyels and Erards) live out their lives in possession of their lucky owners. Evidently, even before Gaveau (the company) was bought, the heyday of Gaveaus as remarkably beautiful instruments had come to a close.

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I had a Gaveau once from the 1850s. What a gorgeous upright. It ended up getting restored and is at a retired professor's house in Minneapolis now. I miss it a lot. I should scan a picture of it and post it. Sigh...

When I had it the piano needed new pins or a new pinblock, so the tuning was not stable across the whole instrument. The tone was not extremely full, but intimate and very pleasant. With the beauty of that beautiful handiwork to look at while I played I never noticed a deficiency in tone.

I would not recommend one for playing a grand romantic piano concerto on. The uprights were rather delicate straight strung, partial iron framed affairs.


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Gaveau of Paris was estblished. Gaveau pianos generally have nice crafted cases. In 1960, the company merged with Erard and was later absorbed by Schimmel in 1971.

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Pleyel and Gaveau pianos were made by Schimmel from 1971 to 1994. In 1994 production moved back to France and new designs were introduced using Langer and Renner actions.

Here was a Gaveau from 1870, very pretty piano.
http://hammerfluegel.net/viewer.php?albid=172&stage=3&ref_imgid=2541

This is a history of Gaveau in French, but i enjoyed the pictures.
http://users.telenet.be/lieve.verbeeck/histoire_famille_gaveau.htm

Sallie Gaveau is still open in Paris with concerts.
Here is the website.
http://www.sallegaveau.com/index_flash.htm

While I was reading about this and searching I found pictures of the Erand which Liszt and Thalberg had their "contest" upon.
Amazing piano which Liszt chose.
http://www.amadeusantiques.com/StoreKeeper/items/s1170320124.shtml


Master of Music, School Teacher, Church Musician- See "Our Adventure to a New grand" thread... http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/18212.html
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Thanks very much for the information. I enjoyed the links. what beautiful pianos!
ScottM, thanks for sharing. A picture would be great!

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Thanks very much for the information. I enjoyed the links. what beautiful pianos! The belgian site you mention indicated that the Gaveau pianos were being manufactured under license by Schimmel between 1968 and 1983. Then there was an effort at continuing to manufacture all 3 french piano brands (Erard, Pleyel and gaveau) by a single factory in Ales, France in 1998. But this effort failed due to competition by Chinese manufacturers..sad!
ScottM, thanks for sharing. A picture would be great!

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I'm glad that you liked the web sites.

If you would like to know more about the Pleyel current situation then do a search for Pleyel here on PW. They have a good number of pianos to sell but have quit making their smaller pianos and have started making very high end pianos to compete with the very best pianos. I do not know if the have been selling pianos under the Gaveau brand or Erand. I spend a long time at the Amadeusantiques.com site. They have pictures of amazing instruments that they have rebuilt or sold or have for sale.


Master of Music, School Teacher, Church Musician- See "Our Adventure to a New grand" thread... http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/18212.html
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I finally scanned a couple pictures from the late 1980s of my Gaveau. I wish I still had it.

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Villa-Lobos lived in Paris a few years in the 20s. When he came back to Brazil (1930) he brought a Gaveau Grand. This piano is
in exhibition at Museu Villa-Lobos in Rio de Janeiro and it is still used during special concerts.

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I know that this thread is old, however as people before said, the Gaveau pianos were in theis time the same league as the S&S etc. Top edge pianos. They were highly acclaimed by many french pianists, not only Cziffra.

It's a big pity that pianos like Pleyel or Gaveau are lost todays, due to marketing frown
They could at least left one strong brand and make it top-class world-wide known brand.



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Perhaps the most striking thing about Gaveau pianos were their art case models. Those interested in this aspect can find numerous photos here:
http://launch.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/gaveau/

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I see this is an older post, but wanted to add that I actually own a Gaveau Grand serial number showing it's from about 1850. Going to add some pictures for you that I thought you might enjoy. (trying to figure that out now)

It's an AMAZING instrument, and having played many pianos in my lifetime when I came across this one, I couldn't let it pass me by. It sounds wonderful, full tone, great bass and bright although not cutting treble. TWO pedals on mine. Well, you'll see once I figure out how to add pictures.

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To post pics you need to host them somewhere such as Flickr, then use the image link to point to the url. You can also share the pics on the pianoworld photo gallery and then link to it the same way.

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/42/1/Photo%20Gallery.html

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