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#2048187 - 03/14/13 12:45 PM Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California?  
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Hello All,

I can't believe I was able to register & be part of this forum. I have few questions and hoping to get some feedbacks..

Just like my name - I played piano when I was young but stopped. However, I always like the sound of piano and when I see one, I would try to play the few pieces that I could.

Now I like to introduce that to my kid but we don't have a piano at home. I live in California now but the piano I grew up with (my first piano and only piano) sits in Montreal at parents' place.

The Piano is Flora brand, the size is almost like Yamaha U1, but is 30 yrs old. It still plays nicely as I was the first and only owner. It's made in Japan.

So here are my questions... a handful so please bare with me blush
1) Does it make sense to have it move from Montreal (east coast, Canada) to California (West coast)?


Assuming it does :-)
2) Anyone has done that and could recommend a mover?
3) I am aware that there is customs to clear and like to know if anyone has done that.
4) Since the manufacturer no longer exists, I couldn't find resale value. IT's Flora - F20. Does anyone knows or could get a ball park resale value?

Obviously, as you can tell, I am emotionally tied to the piano. I thought if my kid does not en up playing it, I could pick upw here I left and enjoy it again.

Thank you all for reading!

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#2048203 - 03/14/13 01:22 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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It is far easier to trans-border ship pianos that are crated than just do it via moving carrier loose. If you could find yourself a professional crating firm familiar with pianos. EG Craters & Freighters or someone like that. Then contact an LTL carrier which goes into Canada ( LTL means less than truck-load)

The shipping class is # 50 here in the US, There are different numbers assigned to different items. You will still need a value for insurance/customs

I am not sure whether Keyboard Carriage runs into Canada or not but you can ship any piano with them coast to coast for 500 dollars in the US but they do not do inside deliveries or pickups so you would still need movers to either move it out or into your house then do a truck to truck transfer, which is how we use them.

Just a few ideas


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#2048206 - 03/14/13 01:23 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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Personally, I would find out how much it costs to move by calling piano stores in the area and googling movers. I'd say if its less thank 1k, I would move it.. if its over 1k (which it most likely will be), id try to sell it. Since your moving to California, there will be plenty of used pianos (private & dealer) that you could find (believe me, I know).. will you be moving to so cali by any chance? also, if the piano plays nicely and is in pretty good condition, id look at what u1's (of similar age and condition)are selling for in that area and price it for a little under that. I know the piano has sentimental value, but take it from a person that sold his piano of 20 years (it was a Brentwood upright).. I learned on that piano and played through my life on it. I ended up getting several used pianos at great prices here in so cal..so I think even though I could of kept the brentwood, I found better pianos that I enjoy much more.. who knows, you might find a good price on a grand piano.


#2048220 - 03/14/13 02:01 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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You would probably do better selling the piano in Canada and buying a used piano in California.

The difference in price will likely be less than the cost of the move.


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#2048339 - 03/14/13 05:38 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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I just recently moved a grand piano from Houston, Texas to San Francisco, CA. I used Keyboard Carriages (I highly recommend them) for the cross-country part of the move. I can tell you from experience, you're going to be looking at AT LEAST $1600 - 2000 in just moving costs. A 30+ year old piano that has not been maintained is going to need several tunings to get it to a stable pitch, that's gonna set you back another $500-$750 in the first year, not to mention regulating and perhaps new strings and damper work. If the climate it comes from was pretty dry, and you live in a part of CA that's pretty humid, there could be some big changes in the pinblock and soundboard that would make it a drawback to move it hear. (Visa versa is true if it's in a humid climate in Canada and you live in a drier climate here).

If it were a Tier 1 piano like a Steinway or a Bechstein upright the question would be easy. But, an average Japanese piano from 30+ years ago, financially is going to be a poor investment to move, because if you ever want to sell it, nobody will buy it for more than a few hundred dollars, because they can get a Yamaha or Kawai for a couple or few thousand. If it's just the sentimental value of the piano, that's up to you.


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#2048463 - 03/14/13 11:38 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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I confirm the "much more than $2000", since recently I asked the price for a move about half this distance for about $2500. Definitely not worth the cost.

#2048742 - 03/15/13 03:01 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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Thanks for your comments. I agree that that it is probably not worth the cost of bringing and certainly at $2000 more, I probably could get a pretty decent 2nd hand Japanese piano here. Thanks!

Now I just need to start looking at different dealers in the the area. I live in North California .. if anyone has good recommendation please let me know! Thanks again!

#2048755 - 03/15/13 03:12 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: Nash. Piano Rescue]  
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Originally Posted by Nash. Piano Rescue


I am not sure whether Keyboard Carriage runs into Canada or not


They do.

#2048846 - 03/15/13 07:50 PM Re: Move old piano from Montreal Canada to California? [Re: PianoAgain]  
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Oh and happy birthday to Cary as I see a cake near your forum name. smile


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