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Yes, 65 has to be assembled, what makes it easier to be lifted 3 floors.
95 is just one piece, right?
But the measures should be similar, it's a palet.

Thank you very much for the answers I guess I will have to stay with the VPC1 then, it will be much easier (when moving in, a lot of my furniture had to come through the windows but it's a fairly expensive procedure).
Not a big problem I guess since I already own a copy of the American Concert D and I would have to use a headphone most of the time. It was more about the action, but I guess, quality wise, they are very similar anyway.

Thanks a lot for your effort, James.

@all: Well, considering that the CA-95 is a cabinet piano, the box will be taller but not too wide. It should be fairly well manipulable unless one's dealing with a really confined space.

@Jean-Luc: it's actually pretty simple: look up the outside dimensions of the CA95 cabinet. There's no need to transport the DP with the surrounding package upstairs. You can take off the packaging downstairs and just take the piano upstairs.

Yes, and pray your favourite one.
I'd do whay Stephan advises only if it was a fridge or a washing machine. But a wooden brand new CA95...no thanks.
I'd definitely buy a stage piano in that situation.

Good morning chaps,

I can confirm that the dimensions of the CA95 shipping box are as follows:

1583 (W) × 598 (D) × 975 (H) (mm)

Kind regards,
James
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Sounds good, James. I shouldn't have any trouble getting that baby up to my flat.

Thanks a bunch again for your effort.

Thank you very much James, I will have to take some measurements in my stairs (what worries me actually are the bends I really don't feel like carrying it up without the protection of the shipping box.

Jeal-Luc, it goes without saying that the box is *very* heavy.

When transporting boxes for photography shoots, it's usually a four man job.

Cheers,
James
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I would either negotiate free delivery and placement from a local retailer or else hire a stair-elevator or crane and bring it in through a window. The CA95 has the dimensions and mass of a lightweight piano. Getting stuck in the stairway with three of your best friends sounds like a nightmare start to owning a new instrument.

Best to let the professionals do it. It cost me $85 to have it delivered and setup. No worries. That's what I recommend.

Word of Wisdom.

When my daughter was a young girl, I used to tell her that my litmus test for whether I would "allow" her to participate in various activities was trying to judge my level of embarrassment and/or humiliation if things went badly and the public would find out that I, as the parent, had "allowed" it.

I would use the same litmus test for something like this. Suppose I had paid $2500 for this musical instrument and then had tried to get it up the stairs on the cheap and had a problem and wrecked it. That would be too embarassing for me to endure. So, I have a professional mover do it. Simple.

Well, I wasn't planning on doing it by myself. But usually I buy from Thomann, and it would be pretty stupid to order it just to discover there is just no way to get it in my flat :P

This being said, while the C95 is a beautiful piano, in my case it would not be a smart choice. I already have a very good software piano and I can most of the time only listen with a headphone so, since I guess both action are very similar, it's probably a lot smarter for me to get a VPC1. I guess, I was simply very attracted by the beauty of the instrument and the idea of a "real" piano in the room. (to be honest, I was even more in lover with the CS9 and it probably has an even scarier box )

What about the CS-10? It looks amazing but the price tag must be astronomical too... However, in your case it seems much smarter to go with the VPC1 and to use the software piano that you have already.

What about the ES7.

That is what I would vote for.

I would not like the idea of needing to hook into computer software sounds all of the time.

Not to mention that I think the ES7 sound is terrific on its own.

The keybed on the ES7 is also excellent.

If the main attractiveness to the VPC1 is the built-in velocity curves, I would suggest that they main turn out to be mostly hype without any real noticeable value over the velocity curves within the piano software itself.

I may be wrong about that but until I hear convincing testimony, it will remain my position on that.

And, the ES7 has a furniture stand option which, in my opinion, looks better than some sort of X stand or something else and also more stable.

To me, it would be an easy decision between the VPC1 and the ES7.

I bought my Roland HP-307 from thomann.de. Advantage was lower price than local dealer plus ability to pay with Amex to get additional warranty coverage and airmiles further reducing the net price paid.

It was delivered by a freight consolidator forwarder and left in two boxes strapped to a pallet on the sidewalk in front of our brownstone. I recruited a neighbor to move the heavy but manageable boxes up two flights of stairs. Actually assembled the thing myself (but I recommend that you have a partner for that as well, 'bout gave myself a hernia). I can imagine that in the tinier, more winding staircases in the centrum that the boxes would have had to have been held more upright, but it would have been possible getting them in through the staircase.

The new Roland HP-507 is an amazing instrument with the PHA-III keyboard & Supernatural sound and new features that make sense like early fortepiano sounds for baroque early classical playing, automatic power off in case you close the lid without powering off first and very easy USB integration to make playing along with your favorite minus 1 tracks a pleasure, etc. etc.

I would not consider buying an RM3 or GF Kaway keyboard from thomann or another online dealer due to the fact that there seems to be a very high chance that you will need maintenance support requiring you to send the instrument back rather than just calling the local dealer and making them deal with the problem. The Roland keyboards seem to be designed to stay aligned and regulated and able to be transported without damage.

I, too, am thinking about ordering the CA-95 from thomann.de, but I was sort of hoping the delivery would be done straight to my flat. Oh well, looks like I'm going to have to get hold of a few people willing to flex their muscles for a bit.

I wouldn't even consider ordering a CA-95 from thomann.de unless you live on the ground floor with no staircase. It cannot be disassembled and so is as bulky as a real piano. Plus, if and when your maintenance sensitive, transport damaged wooden keyboard doesn't work properly after delivery, you will be responsible for boxing it the whole piano again, strapping it using professional equipment on a shipping pallet, contacting a freight forwarder and sending it back to Germany....

Well, it is bulky but not nearly as heavy as an acoustic upright. I'll have to think about it some more, I guess, but thomann really seems like the best choice since stores that can supply this model are few and far between around here.

Thanks for your insight, theJourney.