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Lots of them, especially in the VPC1.
The FP-7F is more of that good compromise DP with a lot of all-around quality, but few specialties. It's all about how you use it. Why would you say especially the VPC1? What makes it a better controller than the others? To me it seems to be 'only' a master keyboard without internal sounds, or other controls such as pitch bend, Mod wheel or even 'dumb' knobs or faders to control a PC/mac. Just wondering, because I'm also still in a kinda limbo state on deciding which one to choose.
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Why would you say especially the VPC1? What makes it a better controller than the others? To me it seems to be 'only' a master keyboard without internal sounds, or other controls such as pitch bend, Mod wheel or even 'dumb' knobs or faders to control a PC/mac. Just wondering, because I'm also still in a kinda limbo state on deciding which one to choose.
What can make it it better, as a piano controller, is the pre-programmed customized velocity curves for a bunch of the popular software pianos. The other things you mention, like internal sounds or pitch/mod wheel, wouldn't make it a better piano controller.
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I just caught this post now. Sorry, but wanted to add my 2 cents. I played the FP-7f and not sure why many seem disappointed to see it go. When I was shopping pianos I played the fp-7f in comparison with the Kawai ES7. I thought the ES7 was superior to the fp-7f it touch , sound, and quality. Yes the fp-7f has wooden keys (yet loud and clunky) and a bunch of other accompaniment features that might seem more desirable, mostly just marketable. But if it's piano sound and feel you are looking for and features that matter (i.e. 256 poly & 3rd sensor) the ES7 is the better choice and better price. I purchased a CA95 but prior to purchase I was overwhelmingly impressed with the ES7. Im sure the FP-7f replacement will now have the same significant features of the ES7 but probably going to add another $500 to the retail price. People really need to take a closer look at Kawai. Too bad Kawai dps aren't as accessible to try and buy as Roland and Yamaha. Maybe a good thing for Roland as their sales/stocks are already dropping significantly over past few years.
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I just caught this post now. Sorry, but wanted to add my 2 cents. I played the FP-7f and not sure why many seem disappointed to see it go. When I was shopping pianos I played the fp-7f in comparison with the Kawai ES7. I thought the ES7 was superior to the fp-7f it touch , sound, and quality. Yes the fp-7f has wooden keys (yet loud and clunky) and a bunch of other accompaniment features that might seem more desirable, mostly just marketable. But if it's piano sound and feel you are looking for and features that matter (i.e. 256 poly & 3rd sensor) the ES7 is the better choice and better price. I purchased a CA95 but prior to purchase I was overwhelmingly impressed with the ES7. Im sure the FP-7f replacement will now have the same significant features of the ES7 but probably going to add another $500 to the retail price. People really need to take a closer look at Kawai. Too bad Kawai dps aren't as accessible to try and buy as Roland and Yamaha. Maybe a good thing for Roland as their sales/stocks are already dropping significantly over past few years. i couldn't agree more! I didn't care for the FP7F at all - with all the hype i was really let down.
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Hi Ashley2013 and Mitzysman
I also agree with you both! I was in the market for a dp and tried many brands as all are easily accessible in the Boston, MA area. My final choices were and CA65 and ES7. Both great, bought the ES7 as it was a better fit, price and size for my needs. I tried the FP7F before I decided on the ES7 just to make sure I wasn't missing anything in that price range. I must admit Im always intrigued with all the Roland hype. First off, I wasn't a huge fan of the on-board speakers of the ES7 until I heard the horrible ringing distorted sounds of the FP7F. It was like a child's toy. Keyboard is very nice but as you say "loud and clunky". Just because the keys are wooden doesn't mean it's automatically better, just better marketing. So to be fair, I tried both with headphones. The Roland SN piano is very good for the most part, however, still can hear some sort of odd ringing tone around and above middle C. Almost distracting while playing some different pieces. Was able to edit sound and touch to help it a bit. I must admit I even heard that tinny ringing sound even in the RD700nx too. Might just be me and my hearing. When I played the ES7 it was near perfect with rich sound right from hitting the power button and no tweaking and even gets better with Virtual Technician. Of course the ES7 is not without faults, but compared to the FP7F the Kawai is a clear winner. Im not really sure why Roland is considered to be the best in the dp business. Maybe the best in marketing to convince us of that. In Roland's defense, maybe they were aware that the product needed improvement, hence the discontinuation. Have to come up with something every few years regardless. Im sure a little planned obsolescence isn't out of the question at Roland. Anyways, let's wait and see if the FP-8F is the Kawai Killer ;-)
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It's perhaps worth pointing out that the Roland FP-7F keys are plastic, not wooden. Indeed, no current Roland digital piano features wooden keys.
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Sorry, my misunderstanding. I thought the PHA III were as the RM3 Gf
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I believe a closer comparison with Roland's PHAIII keyboard action would be Kawai's RHII keyboard action. Both employ plastic keys, offer triple-sensor detection, Ivory-like surfaces, and escapement/let-off simulation.
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Wow, no wonder why I like my ES7 RHII keyboard more than RD700nx and FP7F. So, even the V-Piano has plastic keys? That's a big box for plastic keys. Not to mention a lot of $$$. Sorry for being misinformed. I should not post until I check my facts. My bad.
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Basically they are all made of plastic - on the outside. I don't think it really matters what's inside as long as the weight is right. (...as long as it's not real ivory)
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Some of us don't want wooden keys. Plastic doesn't dry out or absorb moisture (no shrinking or expanding to cause key movement issues.) I want a zero maintenance device!
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