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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
pv88 #2040549 02/28/13 05:29 AM
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I find it quite unbelievable that I'm supposed to assemble a $5000 piano. For that price, I'd expect two techs to assemble it for me while other two people would tend to my comfort throughout.


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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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@Clayman,

Yes, you are right, as I am just poking a little fun at that illustration in the manual which is obviously an error. And, I would certainly have the store/dealer assemble the digital before delivering it.

It is interesting to note that Casio Celviano AP-620 requires the customer to assemble it from the box. And, that's a very heavy one, too!

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The delivery and mounting is simply a service from the store where you buy your item, and not a thing the manufacturer serves you with.
Just buy at a store where they give you this service, if you want it, that´s all.

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Since it seems you will buy from a store who will assemble it for you, I recommend playing it before purchase. (Recommend this anyway).

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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Originally Posted by pv88
I am just poking a little fun at that illustration in the manual which is obviously an error.


It looks fine to me - two people facing each other, holding the piano.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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James,

Actually no, the hands need to be reversed to be correct.

Check out the first set of hands on the back of the console as it appears they would have to be arms reaching directly down over the top of the piano from the front in order to grab it that way. Wrong orientation for the thumbs on those hands.

Look at the thumbs of each hand as they are facing inwards towards one another. Someone holding the piano from the back side of the console would have their thumbs facing outward towards each end of the console.

Hence, a four-armed alien creature must be lowering the console section.

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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Again, it looks fine to me... however, it's perhaps worth nothing that my thumbs were chopped-off in a food processor accident a few years ago, and may have been re-attached incorrectly.

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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pv88 - you are just funnily disoriented:-)

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Why would someone standing in front of the console reach all the way over it to hold the console? Or, try holding the back of the console in reality with the thumbs of both hands facing inwards towards one another? As you would be using the backs of your hands and you cannot lift anything that way.

The illustration shows thumbs facing inwards and not outwards. And, are those the arms with the two hands supposed to be for the guy standing in front of the console, no, as the thumbs are incorrectly reversed in the drawing.

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Two people holding a box, one at either end:

[Linked Image]

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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Absolutely correct anatomy in your photo, with the thumbs of each hand facing outward from one another.

However, the illustration has the thumbs of each hand facing inward towards one another.

That cannot be physically correct, unless the person holding it is reaching way over the top of the console while standing in front of it!

Thumbs on each hand need to be reversed to the other side of the hand.

Or, maybe it's just an illusion drawn by M.C. Escher?

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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pv88, everything is correct.

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Thumbs marked with red lines smile



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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
pv88 #2040618 02/28/13 08:20 AM
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Just lousy copywork on the part of graphic artist, d00ds. smile


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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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If person "A" is standing behind the piano, his/her thumbs would have to be facing outwards to hold the bottom of the console:

Yes, or, no?

Extra note:

You have correctly marked the thumbs of each hand, I see.

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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But both persons are standing on the sides and this is the source of the whole misunderstanding grin
Left and right, not front and back.


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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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Aha, it does appear as if you are right, depending on how you view it.

The illustration intends to indicate that each person is holding the console from the sides and not the front and back.

It's all about one's perspective then, isn't it?

Thanks for the clarification.

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Originally Posted by pv88
The illustration intends to indicate that each person is holding the console from the sides and not the front and back.


Correct, just like in the photo I posted above.

Originally Posted by pv88
It's all about perspective then, isn't it?


Indeed, it is all about one's sense of perspective...

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Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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And, here is a different bit of perspective:

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Now, why am I not getting anywhere?

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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It seems Piano World has become Anatomy World. smile

Re: Yamaha Clavinova CLP-480
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Originally Posted by Wess. Chr. K.
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As a conclusion I will paste what "boyonahill" wrote: "For that money I'd go for a NU1".
I couldn't agree more with him.




I took a quick read through the NU1 brochure,

http://download.yamaha.com/api/asset/file/?language=sv&site=se.yamaha.com&asset_id=53677

and I see that the NU1 has the new CFX samples!

So CLP 480 VS NU1

NU1
CFX samples
a "real" piano keyboard action
5 years warranty (2 standard + 3 extra years, an Yamaha campaign, at least where I live, right now)

CLP 480
more sounds
more amplifiers
more speakers


Current: Yamaha Clavinova
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