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#2039578 - 02/26/13 11:57 AM tchaikovsky concerto  
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Does anyone has the best recording or knows what is the best interpretation for the concerto n1 of Tchaikovsky? Thank you!


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#2039580 - 02/26/13 11:59 AM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: 1001 pianos]  
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#2039602 - 02/26/13 12:32 PM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: BDB]  
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Originally Posted by BDB
No.

Yes, that is the correct answer! Congratulations, you have move moved on to the next round! grin

To 1001: There are lots of terrific ones. Which one is best is just a matter of preference. And I couldn't even say which I think is best.

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Start with the Van Cliburn recordings.

For an electrifying performance go for the Argerich live recording.

And if you want a soulless/sterile one try the Richter/Karajan.

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#2039609 - 02/26/13 12:46 PM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: Hakki]  
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Originally Posted by Hakki
....And if you want a soulless/sterile one try the Richter/Karajan.

....and now run for cover. ha

BTW if that's your overall feeling about Richter, I'm toward your camp but I wouldn't put it that way, on either the degree of it or the nature. But I know that many people consider him the greatest ever, and I don't get that.

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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Hakki
....And if you want a soulless/sterile one try the Richter/Karajan.

....and now run for cover. ha

BTW if that's your overall feeling about Richter, I'm toward your camp but I wouldn't put it that way, on either the degree of it or the nature. But I know that many people consider him the greatest ever, and I don't get that.


No, Richter is one of my all time favorite pianists.
IMO, it is Karajan who is not letting him play the way he would like to.

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Originally Posted by Hakki
No, Richter is one of my all time favorite pianists.
IMO, it is Karajan who is not letting him play the way he would like to.

If that means he played pretty far from how he would have liked to, I think it reflected on Richter too. You can't let the conductor not let you play essentially how you want to play, if you can help it -- and if you're Richter, you're in a position to not let him not let you -- or not to do the gig.
I wouldn't even do the gig -- and I don 't have to tell you that I'm not Richter. ha

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Originally Posted by Hakki
Start with the Van Cliburn recordings.

For an electrifying performance go for the Argerich live recording.


I second both these recommendations. Argerich's third movement alone is worth a listen.

#2039639 - 02/26/13 01:26 PM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: didyougethathing]  
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Originally Posted by didyougethathing
I second both these recommendations....

I do too (even without having heard Argerich's). grin

But if we're tossing out names, we have to mention Horowitz.

And please nobody say "no we don't." ha

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My vote would be for Mikhail Pletnev, not just in No.1, but also Nos. 2 & 3 and Concert Fantasia. (Actually, he is well-nigh incomparable in any of Tchaikovsky's piano music, from The Seasons, to Sonata in G, to Piano Pieces Op.72 to...)

He does play around with the tempi (as is his wont grin) but just listen to those double octaves near the end. And his scintillating lightness of touch in the scherzando section of the slow movement. And his poetry....


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#2039654 - 02/26/13 02:02 PM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: Mark_C]  
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Originally Posted by Mark_C
Originally Posted by Hakki
No, Richter is one of my all time favorite pianists.
IMO, it is Karajan who is not letting him play the way he would like to.

If that means he played pretty far from how he would have liked to, I think it reflected on Richter too. You can't let the conductor not let you play essentially how you want to play, if you can help it -- and if you're Richter, you're in a position to not let him not let you -- or not to do the gig.
I wouldn't even do the gig -- and I don 't have to tell you that I'm not Richter. ha


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3LtZK8DN7A&list=PL4C829EB106AA4DA5&index=3

Well, just watch from 3:24 and it is all self explanatory.

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Surprised nobody has mentioned Horowitz and Toscanini.

There must be tons of recordings of it, some stronger, some weaker, some better in some spots and some worse. You can have a lot of fun listening to as many as possible. I thought Oscar Levant was surprisingly good, for instance.


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#2039922 - 02/27/13 12:09 AM Re: tchaikovsky concerto [Re: 1001 pianos]  
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You chaps haven’t heard my wonky recording ... but having analysed the first movement of this masterpiece in finest detail ... with a four handed version of the score (picking up the orchestra) ... I sometimes play this gem (if I’ve got an afternoon free) and again marvel at the exceptional workmanship ... with everything neatly tied together and rounded off.

In my opinion the finest PC of the lot (including Lord Beethoven) ... guess who’s biassed.

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btb, there is a solution. Post it up. smile


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It feels weirdly like a strange foreshadowing or premonition, that this thread appeared right before the news of Van Cliburn's death. It's not every day we get a thread about the piece that was so closely identified with Cliburn's launch into the public eye.

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It's also ironic that as I am looking at this thread, I am listening to Van Cliburn's recording of the concerto...

which I think is the best one. smile


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Originally Posted by Mark_C
But I know that many people consider him the greatest ever, and I don't get that.

Maybe because he can do this


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Originally Posted by Mark_C
But I know that many people consider him the greatest ever, and I don't get that.

Maybe because he can do this


BTW, we should make it clear: I wasn't talking about Cliburn.

P.S. Good one. smile


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