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#2038008 - 02/23/13 02:13 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
We just added a 10 electric piano demos to our soundcloud page


Wow! All they sound great. If the price is really $999, it would be a must have digital piano thumb I'm having even more GAS now laugh

I have few questions though. There's something I loved on RD-700SX and I miss on MP6. Is it possible to apply two effects on a sound, say tremolo and a delay, for instance? Also, is there a compressor which can be added on top of that, regardless of the two effects?


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#2038012 - 02/23/13 02:21 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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4 insert effects plus master FX (reverb, chorus etc.). So, yes.


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#2038015 - 02/23/13 02:28 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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OK, but is it possible to apply multiple effects over a single sound (zone)? On MP6 it's also possible to apply different effect on different zones, however it's not possible to apply two effects per zone, hence it's not possible to apply both tremolo and delay which I love on a Rhodes. As a workaround it's possible to use the same sound for two zones and apply affects separately but the result is not good since the effects are applied in parallel and not in a chain.


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#2038016 - 02/23/13 02:32 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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As far as I'm aware, it's possible to have multiple effects on a single sound (chaining the insert FX), but Mike will have to confirm.


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#2038019 - 02/23/13 02:36 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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The inserts are 1 per zone. There are 4 zones.

There are three system effects Reverb, chorus and delay. So you can have an insert of tremolo and still have access to chorus, delay and reverb.

There are also EQ and Compression as master effects.

So tremolo plus delay and compression is possible.


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#2038022 - 02/23/13 02:39 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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OK, that perfectly works for me. Thank you! smile


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#2038029 - 02/23/13 02:46 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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So where does the Amp simulator effect sit ? Is that an insert effect, meaning you can't have amp effect and tremolo simultaneously ? Or is it the effect you named as 'compression' master effect ? That would leave the insert effect slot still free for other algorithms.

Wondered if you can have tremolo , or phaser AND amp effect on an EP sound.

#2038036 - 02/23/13 03:00 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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You can do a basic tremolo using an LFO without using an effect. That stereo panning Tremolo is an effect. There is an interesting trick to get an insert such as amp simulator and add stereo tremolo using the Arpeggiator as a panning modulator.


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#2038046 - 02/23/13 03:15 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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...so the amp simulator is an insert effect (taking in the insert effect slot ) ?

+ Good that you can simulate the required effects with other means by the way.

Q: Are there any more sound demo's to find of the naked AP preset(s) ?

Getting more excited about this board. But the only current AP sound I can find is the one with PAD sound and HEX layers attached.

#2038056 - 02/23/13 03:33 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Hopefully this new stage piano won't be too hyped up before its release, else it might disappoint people who had way too high expectations in the first place.

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#2038147 - 02/23/13 08:24 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: adak]  
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Originally Posted by adak
Hopefully this new stage piano won't be too hyped up before its release, else it might disappoint people who had way too high expectations in the first place.


Yes, and perhaps people are getting a little greedy! People are expecting this $999 Casio to do things that keyboards twice the price can't do either. At this price, I think you have to be willing to compromise on a few things. The only gripe I have about it is the terrible/tiny LCD screen - they could have done better there.

#2038169 - 02/23/13 09:25 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: ando]  
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Originally Posted by ando
People are expecting this $999 Casio to do things that keyboards twice the price can't do either... The only gripe I have about it is the terrible/tiny LCD screen - they could have done better there.

Ever seen a Nord, ando? wink


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#2038172 - 02/23/13 09:33 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: voxpops]  
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Originally Posted by voxpops
Originally Posted by ando
People are expecting this $999 Casio to do things that keyboards twice the price can't do either... The only gripe I have about it is the terrible/tiny LCD screen - they could have done better there.

Ever seen a Nord, ando? wink


haha, yeah. But I gave up on Nord display screens years ago...

#2040683 - 02/28/13 10:23 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Does anyone know if it will be possible to get higher levels of reverb than on the PX150/350's?

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#2040686 - 02/28/13 10:27 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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The half damper question was just asked in another thread here on this forum. The short answer is no. The rest of my answer is here. http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubb...0with%20Privia%20Pro%20.html#Post2029338

The PX-5S has a completely different effects engine than any of the other products. The reverbs have adjustable depth, can get very long and are quite spectacular IMOH.


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#2040696 - 02/28/13 10:35 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Mike,

Your enthusiasm for the PX5S is quite evident in the NAMM videos. It looks like a real winner! smile


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#2040704 - 02/28/13 10:45 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Thanks Michael,
To say that I'm excited about the PX-5S is an understatement. The instrument was in many ways in its infancy at NAMM. All of the sounds we used for demos at NAMM were programmed in two days leading up to the show (I didn't get much sleep).

Since then the software has come so far. The team at R&D worked really hard and after getting feedback from professionals at NAMM were were able to make some significant improvements to the PX-5S. Less than two weeks ago we finished programming the factory Stage Settings for the PX-5S and in the week since we've triple checked our work against other instruments and in real-world environments. We recently added a lot of audio to our SoundCloud page below and there will be even more added soon.

I have a fair amount of travel coming up in March along with a much needed vacation the last week of the month but I hope that we'll get some in depth videos on the PX-5S done in the next two weeks.


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#2040716 - 02/28/13 11:20 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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I almost placed an order yesterday (although I think GC are telling little porkies saying that they'll have stock by March 11th... ), but held off only because the purchase is not essential for me at this stage.

However I did spend a little time with the PX-350. Although the core piano sound is very similar to previous models (with noticeably improved resonance), the action and sound connection is streets ahead, in my opinion. I think it's a remarkable action for a 25lbs instrument, and beats the equivalent Fatar that's in the Numa and Electro HP. The key surface does feel a little weird, but I know that I would be thankful for that degree of grip during a summer gig.

Putting together the snippets heard from Soundcloud, NAMM and yesterday's PX-350 jaunt, I think the PX-5S will punch way above its weight. However, what makes it more appealing to me is the enthusiasm and dedication that Mike and his team are displaying. In the same way that a meal prepared with devotion can taste so much better than one made perfunctorily, I like to think that this enthusiasm will be evident in the end product, and the vibe it generates.


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#2040721 - 02/28/13 11:21 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Sorry Voxpops but no one will have them in March.


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#2040725 - 02/28/13 11:29 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
Sorry Voxpops but no one will have them in March.

Yes, that's what I expected. I've come across this before with GC/MF in particular. They will display a fictitious date (presumably to entice you to order) and then consistently put the date back in weekly or bi-weekly increments until actual stock is received. It's a disappointing tactic, and is one of the reasons I prefer to do business elsewhere when it comes to major purchases.


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I would expect a high degree of enthusiam on the launch of the 5S once it starts shipping. Mike did a lot of hands on-blogs and workshops with the XW-P1 when it launched. I think the 5S breaks new ground. The new sound chip seems highly capable of breaking new ground with its sounds. I don't think their product line has been this appealing since the ZPI days which this is light years ahead of based on what I've heard so far.

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I've got a lot of travel coming up over the next two months and I'll have a PX-5S with me for most of it. I'll get a list of where I'll be posted soon. Hopefully I'll get a chance to meet some of you in person.


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I had a 20% MF coupon and would have preoordered one (still will do it later).

Could you tell us how many acoustic piano programs it has? One of the aspects that seems nice is the fact that there is a 4 band eq-

I had a Yamaha P50M piano module from 1996-2010; it was fantastic it had this. Also, the Korg SG Prox had one.


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#2041093 - 02/28/13 11:26 PM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Shameless bump, but this was pretty fun. My iPod decided to play this song yesterday so I had to give it a try on the PX-5S.

Pink Floyd's On the Run. One Arpeggiator is in use for the main note pattern and simultaneously doing the hi-hat on the same zone, nothing else is sequenced. This is two zones on the PX-5S with different elements on different keys. All sounds are raw waveforms with pink noise used for the high hats and mixed in with the "helicopter".

https://soundcloud.com/casiomusicgear/on-the-run

Not bad for a "piano". wink


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#2041159 - 03/01/13 03:27 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Gosh, you've recreated it so well! shocked


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#2041183 - 03/01/13 06:11 AM Re: I have a Casio PX-5S GAS [Re: CyberGene]  
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Good job Mike! If you can do a version of 'The Great Gig in the Sky' that's just as good, I'll take a PX-5S!


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I'm in, for sure. I have sold my trusty Roland/Mackie/KRK/studio rig, and the PX-5S is going aboard. Looking forward to placing the order!

Thanks for all you've done with the community, Mike.

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Originally Posted by thomsurf
Good job Mike! If you can do a version of 'The Great Gig in the Sky' that's just as good, I'll take a PX-5S!


Just piano and organ on that song....


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If this piano is as great as it is, should it not be selling for $1500? Or even $2000? Or more? You don't want Casio to be selling itself short if it puts out a great product.


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@Mike Martin,
Just curious, with what i'm sure are countless hours of fine tuning the sound i was wondering if you and/or your team gravitated towards any one specific set of speakers that you feel brings out the best in the PX-5S, more specifically for in home or studio use?
Thanks, Duke

P.S. Love the sound clips posted in soundcloud would love to hear some electronic/house clips smile

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