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#202997 05/23/07 05:13 PM
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I was killing time on piano row (58th St, NYC) before our own Realplayer's Carnegie Hall concert and tried a new Grotrian concert grand, a 20 year old C. Bechstein concert grand, a 1950's vintage NY S&S D and an older Bosie about 7 foot I think. The Grotrian has to be one of the best deals out there listing at 68K. Its a very good looking instrument. The sound was a little dull though. I asked about voicing and all and the salesman indicated it could use quite a lot in that dept. I agreed. This i not to say this will never be a truly great instrument and at that price you cant lose. Still I would want it worked on before I signed on the dotted line. I liked the Bechstein better. I did not realize what a radically different design their concert grand is with the plate sitting so very high inside the case. It was a nice piano but didnt bowl me over. it was very expensive 93K and its 20 years old but in top condition. The older model D was a good one having come from the C&A dept but quite some time ago. This one had new strings in it and was refinished in the not too distant past. It had a nice sound but needed a regulation and possibly lubrication. It was listed at 68K. I dont know if they are negotiable or not but I thought the price was about 10K too much. I ddint like the Bosey at all, way too bright. I think it was just not a good one. BTW Realplayer was great!

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You're just lording it over us! laugh


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Ah, just killing a little time wandering around piano row!

I'll be heading to the Grotrian factory in late June or early July so I'll get to try a concert grand there for comparison. I would find it odd if there were voicing issues on a new piano. They come fully voiced for evenness of tone. Did you think the hammers needed some playing in?

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I agree... I'd love to be in a position where "killing time" meant playing a bunch of concert grands.

LJC, interesting comments. I'm struck, though, by the seeming discrepancy between your statements that the Grotrian was a good deal at $68K but that the sound was "a little dull". I guess if I'm paying $68K I want a sparkling and definitely NOT dull tone! laugh

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I think PDad nailed it. If the sound was dull it had been voiced such that after being played a bit it would brighten up without becoming strident. I experienced this when my piano was new. Ori voiced it and the 5th octave sounded like it was being played with cotton on the hammers. When I mentioned this to him he suggested waiting abit to see what happens after we'd played it a bit. He was right, that octave is beautiful now.


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I was told that out-of-the-box Grotrians are a bit bold in the treble, and that the usual response is to voice them down a bit (at least by this particular dealer here).

I got to hear one that was not voiced down, and found it to be quite forward and brilliant.

Nevertheless, it was still a pretty tone.

What, no photos/recordings of your piano row visit? wink

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PD- THe Grotrian was even and as Steve suggests it will surely brighten up with use. I was thinking the voicer must have gone way overboard with one of those fork things they use to voice with. This was the only brand new piano I tried, the others had the advantage of being broken in. I actually asked how much it would brighten with use and thats when I got the it needs more work response. Maybe that sound appeals to the Grotrian fans out there. I'm used to Steinways so its quite a contrast. I'm sure PD will have lots of insightful comments after the factory tour. I was really shocked that this new concert grand was only 68K. Monica I like a brighter sound too and I'm sure this one could be made much brighter with a different approach to the voicing. When I had my own piano voiced I thought he went too far but in a few weeks the sound came back up and the whole thing sounded better than ever. So Steve I dont disagree. Too bad the Fazioli dealer was closed I wanted another crack at it. Well theres Dou Scarbo in June so if I get there early I may just mosey on over there, its a short walk to Carnegie from there.

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Thanks for the neat report. I'm going to Piano Row in mid-june. Can't wait!

Did you stop in to the new Bechstein Piano Centre?


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No I didnt't is it on 58th St?


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