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i was under the impression that the price listed was the price you pay yet i read some posts saying they bought it for a significantly lower price, for example the roland v piano.

when is it ok is bargain and how would you do it?


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Originally Posted by adak
i was under the impression that the price listed was the price you pay yet i read some posts saying they bought it for a significantly lower price, for example the roland v piano.

when is it ok is bargain and how would you do it?


I bought my V-Piano at a discounted price......and the dealer threw in a pair of good AKG headphones and a music stand too. This was in the UK, boxed and brand new.


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In the US when you buy a digital piano from a regular piano dealer you can indeed negotiate the price and it is more or less standard practice. Have a look in the PianoBuyer as it lists street prices of various models:

http://www.pianobuyer.com/fall12/262.html

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When is it ok is bargain?
ALWAYS. Every deal can be negotiated. Pianos and anything else.

How to do it?
Simple. Do your homework and then make an offer.
Forget about getting the seller to lower his asking price.
Instead, allow him to try to get you to raise your asking offer.

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can bargaining be done if buying from an online website?

forgot to mention, i am also in canada and prices are a bit higher than US prices.


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Online? Depends on the store. Amazon ...no you cannot even speak to a live salesperson for a sale price but they do have sale prices without negotiation. Musician's Friend ...yes if you call them instead of doing transaction online, BH Photo ...they will discuss this through e-mail.

Try local merchants also and see what they are willing to do to compete with online prices. You might end up paying more but they will probably take good care of you to make up the difference.

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As the holder of the cash, you most certainly should negotiate. Keep in mind that that vast majority of sales people are on commission. They want the sale, and in most cases will take a lower sale price instead of watching you walk out the door.

MacMacMac gave you the key. Apply the points he mentioned and be willing to walk out the door.

One more thing, never go when the store is busy. smile

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When I bought a DP I went to a number of dealers. Tried out the pianos, and went back to find out what they`d do it for. The lowest priced was what I bought.

But it arrived on the slowww train .. . .


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man, you should negotiate everything in life...

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how about in canada when the competitors are much fewer? I think there is only 1 kawai digital piano seller in the whole country.


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adak, I believe there are a number of Kawai digital piano dealers in Canada.

If you require assistance find a dealer, my recommendation would be to contact Kawai America using the information at the page below:

http://kawaius.com/nav_links/contacts2010.html

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Originally Posted by adak
how about in canada when the competitors are much fewer? I think there is only 1 kawai digital piano seller in the whole country.


where in canada are you?


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There is one in the Vancouver area with two stores.


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I purchased mine from merriam music in oakville. they have a store in vaughn as well i believe. http://www.merriammusic.com/


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Originally Posted by adak
how about in canada when the competitors are much fewer? I think there is only 1 kawai digital piano seller in the whole country.


It has nothing to do with the number of dealers in your area. It has to do with how many commissions the sales person wants to make this paycheck.

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how about in canada when the competitors are much fewer? I think there is only 1 kawai digital piano seller in the whole country.
It has nothing to do with the number of dealers in your area. It has to do with how many commissions the sales person wants to make this paycheck.
Sure, dealers may feel more pressure when there is a nearby competing dealer. But as a buyer, you need not depend on that kind of competition. Instead, look at it this way: The dealer isn't competing with another dealer. He's competing with you. YOU are the competition. YOU control your spending. That is your source of power in any negotiation.

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Originally Posted by MacMacMac
Sure, dealers may feel more pressure when there is a nearby competing dealer. But as a buyer, you need not depend on that kind of competition. Instead, look at it this way: The dealer isn't competing with another dealer. He's competing with you. YOU are the competition. YOU control your spending. That is your source of power in any negotiation.


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you negotiate with the sale person. It's just business,
nothing personal. No sentiments no pardon, an American way laugh
No wonder we have the best sales people in the world.
The best way is play reluctant buyer and negotiate in the same time with at least few dealers. You'll will be surprised with the effect.

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