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#2027204 - 02/05/13 12:13 AM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: jawhitti]  
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Originally Posted by jawhitti
Del I didn't mean to imply that short pianos necessarily sound bad. I nearly bought a 5'8 Knabe and played an SK-1 that just blew me away. What I meant was that a lot of pianos appear to be bought as status symbols more that as instruments. Kind of like pool tables. I always wanted a pool table and was thrilled to find that the house I'm in now was willing to leave it. I played it for about a month and now it sits collecting dust. When I move I'll leave it for the next guy. I've seen houses for sale around me that seem to have the same thing going on with their pianos. If they are played at all it is by the player system installed on it...

There certainly are people that love to play, but I don't think they're the majority of the market. I am not a piano retailer though so I may just be projecting my own ignorance.

I understand. It is interesting to work in the industry just now. Piano sound is actually improving even in the very short grands on the market. The rules of thumb we went by 20 years ago no longer hold.

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#2027359 - 02/05/13 10:22 AM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: Del]  
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Originally Posted by Del

But within the past five years or so several piano makers have upgraded their small grand piano lines. None of these have the low bass performance of longer pianos but neither are they tubby, unmusical atrocities of the bad old days.



Are you able to give us examples of a few specific models?

I ask because I played recently on a couple of new models (late 2012) of around 5ft, and their bass was just as tubby and indeterminate in pitch, lacking almost any discernable fundamentals, as a 20-year-old baby grand I played elsewhere while on holiday recently.


"I don't play accurately - anyone can play accurately - but I play with wonderful expression. As far as the piano is concerned, sentiment is my forte. I keep science for Life."
#2027645 - 02/05/13 07:02 PM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: adak]  
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Check out the new Young Chang 4'11" that Del designed (and is too modest to mention out front). Not only does the bass have clarity, but the transition to the treble bridge is clean.

--Cy--


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#2027974 - 02/06/13 09:15 AM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: Cy Shuster, RPT]  
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On the subject of 9ft. pianos for use at home or studio, it never ceases to amaze me that there are a significant number of Ds in Manhattan apartments and town houses. Bs I could understand and/or expect - but Ds?

It's funny that virtually none that I've played/heard seem to be too much for their respective spaces, yet my own 194cm Petrof (kept completely closed) can sometimes be a bit uncomfortable at anything above mezzo-forte in our little, heavily carpeted flat.

Karl Watson,
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#2029055 - 02/07/13 11:21 PM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: adak]  
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I've been happily using mine in two successive homes since 1991. Great fun all day every day.

#2029108 - 02/08/13 02:14 AM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: Cy Shuster, RPT]  
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Originally Posted by Cy Shuster, RPT
Check out the new Young Chang 4'11" that Del designed (and is too modest to mention out front). Not only does the bass have clarity, but the transition to the treble bridge is clean.

--Cy--


Has he designed a 9 ft? If he can do that well in 4-11, it would be interesting to hear what he could do with more room and a bigger budget.


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#2029152 - 02/08/13 04:37 AM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: JohnSprung]  
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Originally Posted by JohnSprung
Originally Posted by Cy Shuster, RPT
Check out the new Young Chang 4'11" that Del designed (and is too modest to mention out front). Not only does the bass have clarity, but the transition to the treble bridge is clean.

--Cy--


Has he designed a 9 ft?


Yes.

#2029284 - 02/08/13 12:44 PM Re: Can a 9 feet concert grand be used at home? [Re: beethoven986]  
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Dear beethoven986:

Can you tell us what or which exactly is the 9ft. designed by Del. I would LOVE to try one. If it's anything like the Chas. Walter 6'4", it's sure to be superb.

Karl Watson,
Staten Island

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