Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2.5 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!


SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Virtual Sheet Music
Download Sheet Music Instantly
Virtual Sheet Music - Classical Sheet Music Downloads
Sheet Music...
(ad)
Accu-Tuner
Sanderson Accu-Tuner
(125ad)
Piano Life Saver - Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad)
Modern Piano Moving
Modern Piano Moving
(ad)
Piano Buyer Guide
Piano Buyer Spring 2017
(ad)
Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restorations and sales
Who's Online Now
134 registered members (ajames, anotherscott, alexcawley, agraffe, ando, Ancore, 34 invisible), 1,824 guests, and 7 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
(ad)
Estonia Pianos
Estonia Pianos
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Live Piano Venues
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Directory/Site Map
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords & Scales
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
#2024417 - 01/31/13 04:05 AM What and How Should I Look For an Instructor?  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
So, I finally got my first job pretty excited! And since I have my job I feel like I'm ready to find a great and competent piano teacher.
The question is how would I go about finding a very good one with decent rates?
What should I look for in a piano teacher?
Does having experience in all styles of piano make him a great teacher?
Is it good to have more than one private teacher?
Is there a difference between a college and a concert teacher?
Do rates go higher if they travel to you?
Which is more ideal more lessons in a week or once per week?
I have so many questions but I do not want to overload. I would also appreciate the responses or an inbox! Thank you very much!

-Mr. Cid


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
(ad)
Piano & Music Accessories
piano accessories music gifts tuning and moving equipment
#2024759 - 01/31/13 05:40 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,356
Sand Tiger Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Sand Tiger  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,356
Southern California
I am sure some folks will answer the specific questions you posed. In the meantime, Nancy Williams outlines a three step process at her blog. Step one is below, click on the "next post" button at the bottom of the entry, to see the next post in the series.

http://www.nancywilliamspiano.com/2013/01/14/how-to-find-good-piano-teacher-getting-started/

I have no connection with Ms. Williams or her blog.

#2024934 - 01/31/13 11:57 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,393
Bobpickle Offline

Gold Supporter until July 10  2014
Bobpickle  Offline

Gold Supporter until July 10  2014


Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,393
Cameron Park, California
I'd second Sand Tiger's suggestion to read the 3 successive articles on that website having just read them myself.

This is a good starting place: http://www.mtnacertification.org/

I'll simply add that you should look for and lean towards someone with credentials.


"[The trick to life isn't] just about living forever. The trick is still living with yourself forever."
#2024959 - 02/01/13 12:56 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,762
Jeff Clef Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Jeff Clef  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 4,762
San Jose, CA
Cid, many consider it a disservice to suggest to people who are new to the forum, that they use the 'Search' feature. It is a temperamental creature... and some consider that suggesting it means that we are too lazy to answer you in the first place. But for your question, I happen to know that we had a long and detailed discussion on this very topic, within the last two years. I think it would be an advantage to you to hear the many voices which enriched the discussion... and you can even revive the thread, if you want. And then it will be current again.

This kind of discussion is ever-new, and is always useful to at least several members.


Clef

(ad ) MusicNotes.com
sheet music search
#2025151 - 02/01/13 09:59 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,012
PianoStudent88 Online content
4000 Post Club Member
PianoStudent88  Online Content
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 4,012
Maine
As part of your teacher search: don't send them emails in bold italics.

I would address your questions, but I find it so completely irritating to read your posts in what comes across as breathless over-excited shouting, that I'm just completely uninterested.

Regular typeface is easier to read than bold italics.


Piano Career Academy - Ilinca Vartic teaches the Russian school of piano playing
Musical-U - guidance for increasing musicality
Theta Music Trainer - fun ear training games
#2025170 - 02/01/13 10:38 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,189
malkin Offline
4000 Post Club Member
malkin  Offline
4000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 4,189
*sigh* Salt Lake City
I thought this thread was going to be about what to wear and how to fix your hair for a lesson!


Having power is not nearly as important as what you choose to do with it.
– Roald Dahl

#2025173 - 02/01/13 10:40 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,356
Sand Tiger Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Sand Tiger  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 1,356
Southern California
Here are two old threads:
old thread 1

old 2

The Nancy Williams' links are giving an error this morning. To summarize: What kind of music (classical, jazz, popular songs)? How much time are you willing to commit? 15 minutes a day, an hour a day, two hours? What are your musical goals? Examples might be: to play songs from a fake book and have people sing along, learn to play a few pieces that you already know, or play some high level classical masterworks?

Find some teachers using the directories, or a piano store, or piano technician. Interview them over the phone. Be sure the teacher has some adult students or is comfortable with adult students, many are not.

Many teachers will offer one free lesson, but it often takes a few lessons to make an informed decision.

The bold italics are annoying. If the original poster is as insistent in person about stylistic things like that, it may cause personality friction. As to a few specifics, most start out with one teacher, one lesson per week, 30, 45 minutes or one hour. Most teachers prefer that you come to them.

#2025297 - 02/01/13 01:38 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,543
Whizbang Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Whizbang  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,543
If you know with all your heart that you are in love with a particular type of music, it will behoove you to find a teacher who also loves that type of music.

Different teachers have different rate structures, but certainly some teachers will charge additional fees for travel.

I wouldn't attempt to work with more than one instructor at a time. If you're like me, you'll find it sufficiently challenging to improve one set of assignments per week, much less two.


Whizbang [Linked Image]
amateur ragtime pianist
https://www.youtube.com/user/Aeschala
#2025369 - 02/01/13 04:06 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Rostosky Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Rostosky  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Lost in cyberspace.in the UK.
A tall teacher can be good too, say over six three, then they can loom over you and watch your fingers carefully.




Rise like lions after slumber,in unvanquishable number. Shake your chains to earth like dew
which in sleep has fallen on you. Ye are many,they are few. Shelley

Founder and creator ofRostoskys 13th crystal skull project
#2025375 - 02/01/13 04:09 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Rostosky]  
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 210
Toastie Offline
Full Member
Toastie  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 210
UK
Originally Posted by Rostosky
A tall teacher can be good too, say over six three, then they can loom over you and watch your fingers carefully.


This very good advice. I feel it's also important that this tall teacher has those half moon glasses so they can glare sternly at you over the top of them.


Complete Beginner August 2012
'Play Piano' Book 1 - finished
'Play Piano' Book 2 - finished
Grade 1 Sight Reading - finished
Grade 1 Exam Pieces
Grade 1 Scales
The Easy Piano Collection Classical Gold
Yamaha U3
#2025381 - 02/01/13 04:19 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Rostosky Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Rostosky  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Lost in cyberspace.in the UK.
Thanks, its great to have a sense of (a.) belonging somewhere on this planet and (b.) mentioning a tall teacher.

I totally agree about the glasses, forgot to mention that a tall teacher also has other advantages, say if they have halitosis, the taller they are the better so when they loom and peer over their glasses, their breathing doesnt curl up the music score and make it more difficult to sight read than it allready is ( despite those that say it isnt too difficult and then say its a skill you can easily pick up over 27 years of hard work)




Rise like lions after slumber,in unvanquishable number. Shake your chains to earth like dew
which in sleep has fallen on you. Ye are many,they are few. Shelley

Founder and creator ofRostoskys 13th crystal skull project
#2025384 - 02/01/13 04:26 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Rostosky]  
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 210
Toastie Offline
Full Member
Toastie  Offline
Full Member

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 210
UK
Where can I find this teacher please? He sounds really lovely, with his bad breath and his nasty manner. I'd really like to replace mine with him, as I fear I'm having too much fun learning piano. It ought to be about hard work; hard work and a tall, insulting teacher - that's the way to go.


Complete Beginner August 2012
'Play Piano' Book 1 - finished
'Play Piano' Book 2 - finished
Grade 1 Sight Reading - finished
Grade 1 Exam Pieces
Grade 1 Scales
The Easy Piano Collection Classical Gold
Yamaha U3
#2025392 - 02/01/13 04:44 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Toastie]  
Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Rostosky Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Rostosky  Offline
3000 Post Club Member

Joined: Apr 2011
Posts: 3,339
Lost in cyberspace.in the UK.
Originally Posted by Toastie
Where can I find this teacher please? He sounds really lovely, with his bad breath and his nasty manner. I'd really like to replace mine with him, as I fear I'm having too much fun learning piano. It ought to be about hard work; hard work and a tall, insulting teacher - that's the way to go.


you forgot the riding crop, an essential piece of kit for any serious teacher of the manipulation of ivories. This can be used twofold, to urge you on to attain correct tempo ( whack on the fingers of both hands (separate or together method) and also to punish for incorrect fingering or dynamics. (again HT or HS )




Rise like lions after slumber,in unvanquishable number. Shake your chains to earth like dew
which in sleep has fallen on you. Ye are many,they are few. Shelley

Founder and creator ofRostoskys 13th crystal skull project
#2026452 - 02/03/13 07:11 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: PianoStudent88]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by PianoStudent88
As part of your teacher search: don't send them emails in bold italics.

I would address your questions, but I find it so completely irritating to read your posts in what comes across as breathless over-excited shouting, that I'm just completely uninterested.

Regular typeface is easier to read than bold italics.


Thanks for the obvious information, Champ! Now please type something that relates to what I am asking.


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026453 - 02/03/13 07:13 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Sand Tiger]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by Sand Tiger
I am sure some folks will answer the specific questions you posed. In the meantime, Nancy Williams outlines a three step process at her blog. Step one is below, click on the "next post" button at the bottom of the entry, to see the next post in the series.

http://www.nancywilliamspiano.com/2013/01/14/how-to-find-good-piano-teacher-getting-started/

I have no connection with Ms. Williams or her blog.

Thanks for the information, Tiger. I appreciate it!


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026464 - 02/03/13 07:25 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Sand Tiger]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by Sand Tiger
Here are two old threads:
old thread 1

old 2

The Nancy Williams' links are giving an error this morning. To summarize: What kind of music (classical, jazz, popular songs)? How much time are you willing to commit? 15 minutes a day, an hour a day, two hours? What are your musical goals? Examples might be: to play songs from a fake book and have people sing along, learn to play a few pieces that you already know, or play some high level classical masterworks?

Find some teachers using the directories, or a piano store, or piano technician. Interview them over the phone. Be sure the teacher has some adult students or is comfortable with adult students, many are not.

Many teachers will offer one free lesson, but it often takes a few lessons to make an informed decision.

The bold italics are annoying. If the original poster is as insistent in person about stylistic things like that, it may cause personality friction. As to a few specifics, most start out with one teacher, one lesson per week, 30, 45 minutes or one hour. Most teachers prefer that you come to them.


Yeah, my style of typing may be annoying to some but in all honesty its just writing and I like it, So just deal with it.

Now about the teachers; would it cost extra if they were to travel to me? Also, I figured one lesson wouldn't be enough to find out if they for me. So if they do offer a free lesson, should I try to make the most of the lesson to see if we click well (that and considering I talked on the phone with them.)

P.S. What is personality Friction? Help me out here please.


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026471 - 02/03/13 07:35 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Whizbang]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by Whizbang
If you know with all your heart that you are in love with a particular type of music, it will behoove you to find a teacher who also loves that type of music.

Different teachers have different rate structures, but certainly some teachers will charge additional fees for travel.

I wouldn't attempt to work with more than one instructor at a time. If you're like me, you'll find it sufficiently challenging to improve one set of assignments per week, much less two.

Well I love most types of music (at least on an instrument.) But am a big fan of Ragtime, Jazz, Classical/Contemporary, and Renaissance/Medieval Folk music.
I'm sure there are many teachers out there that specialize in the musical genres I stated above but I have yet to even find a teacher so we will see. Also, would only one lesson per week would suffice, because I would like to do more than one lesson per week.

P.S. I see that you are a ragtime player. I would like to play ragtime but I find a lot of the sheets a bit hard for my level, especially with the jumps and whatnot.


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026475 - 02/03/13 07:40 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Bobpickle]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by Bobpickle
I'd second Sand Tiger's suggestion to read the 3 successive articles on that website having just read them myself.

This is a good starting place: http://www.mtnacertification.org/

I'll simply add that you should look for and lean towards someone with credentials.


This is actually a great website from what I hear. Also, what you tell me are what some of my friends tell me. That I should look for someone with credentials. But, I hear stories of phenomenal pianist that are very good at teaching. Should I give a glance in that direction as well?


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026480 - 02/03/13 07:44 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Jeff Clef]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by Jeff Clef
Cid, many consider it a disservice to suggest to people who are new to the forum, that they use the 'Search' feature. It is a temperamental creature... and some consider that suggesting it means that we are too lazy to answer you in the first place. But for your question, I happen to know that we had a long and detailed discussion on this very topic, within the last two years. I think it would be an advantage to you to hear the many voices which enriched the discussion... and you can even revive the thread, if you want. And then it will be current again.

This kind of discussion is ever-new, and is always useful to at least several members.

Do you have the link to it or the title? It sounds like something I need to look at.


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026483 - 02/03/13 07:51 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 14,402
keystring Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
keystring  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 14,402
Canada
Originally Posted by Mr. Cid

[i][b]Yeah, my style of typing may be annoying to some but in all honesty its just writing and I like it, So just deal with it.

Is not answering a good way to deal with it?

#2026502 - 02/03/13 08:39 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: keystring]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by keystring
Originally Posted by Mr. Cid

Yeah, my style of typing may be annoying to some but in all honesty its just writing and I like it, So just deal with it.

Is not answering a good way to deal with it?


That is totally on you. I have no say on how you deal with my writing. So just do what you need to do to make yourself feel better after looking at my writing. I won't care.


Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026505 - 02/03/13 08:45 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 14,402
keystring Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
keystring  Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 14,402
Canada
It is a matter of respect. When people whose help you are seeking tell you that your style hurts their eyes, it is disrespectful to continue simply because it's your own taste, and unrealistic to then expect people to take the time to help you, when you won't help them.

#2026518 - 02/03/13 09:24 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: keystring]  
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Mr. Cid Offline
Junior Member
Mr. Cid  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 19
Minneapolis, MN of the USA
Originally Posted by keystring
It is a matter of respect. When people whose help you are seeking tell you that your style hurts their eyes, it is disrespectful to continue simply because it's your own taste, and unrealistic to then expect people to take the time to help you, when you won't help them.


First and foremost, they simply found it annoying to look at, THIS DID NOT IMPLY that it hurt their eyes.

Secondly, I came here for answers and you guys obviously came here to give me those answers. I did not make a topic just so I can listen and see people complain about the way I type. You either deal with it or just don't respond or however you deal with it

Last edited by Mr. Cid; 02/03/13 09:25 PM.

Just your average beginner that is passionate at what he loves! MUSIC AND INSTRUMENTS!
#2026599 - 02/04/13 12:52 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,543
Whizbang Online content
1000 Post Club Member
Whizbang  Online Content
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,543
Originally Posted by Mr. Cid

Well I love most types of music (at least on an instrument.) But am a big fan of Ragtime, Jazz, Classical/Contemporary, and Renaissance/Medieval Folk music.

I'm sure there are many teachers out there that specialize in the musical genres I stated above but I have yet to even find a teacher so we will see.


In my experience, it was difficult to find a teacher who specialized in a particular style of music. Your interests seem varied enough that you probably should seek a well-rounded teacher. Jazz and classical instruction are different enough that you might want to think about your ultimate direction, but it's not a pressing thing.

Originally Posted by Mr. Cid

Also, would only one lesson per week would suffice, because I would like to do more than one lesson per week.


One lesson per week suffices, but you certainly can up the frequency if you have the budget. Thing is, your brain actually rewires while you sleep, so having some time before you checkpoint with your teacher isn't necessarily a bad thing--as long as you remember to also practice on any day that you also breathe.

Originally Posted by Mr. Cid

P.S. I see that you are a ragtime player. I would like to play ragtime but I find a lot of the sheets a bit hard for my level, especially with the jumps and whatnot.


Classic ragtime is pretty demanding stuff, no way around it.

On this, or another forum, though, I saw reference to a series, "Martha Miers' Jazz, Rags, and Blues" which has introductory pieces in early jazz styles. So, in looking these up, I find these arrangements to be pretty darn charming, arranged in graded difficulty. I found the following on YouTube:

Book 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiqCwSbs6Ew

Book 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9e6FUC7tqI

Book 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s97HRQ0-JuI

Martha Miers looks to be an Alfred Music imprint. (I'm not affiliated with or advertising for Alfred.) These pieces, to my ear, seem like a nice introduction to some of the skills that you'd need to develop to play early jazz (and I'm assuming that there are some rags in those books as well).

If, instead, you wanted to take the plunge into true classic rags, then I think rags like Joplin's "Peacherine Rag," "The Strenuous Life," and "Swipesy" are reasonable places to start, but even these are pretty challenging.

EDIT: Oh, there are also simplified versions of popular Joplin rags. Those can be great places to start.

Last edited by Whizbang; 02/04/13 01:16 AM.

Whizbang [Linked Image]
amateur ragtime pianist
https://www.youtube.com/user/Aeschala
#2026608 - 02/04/13 01:04 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,393
Bobpickle Offline

Gold Supporter until July 10  2014
Bobpickle  Offline

Gold Supporter until July 10  2014


Joined: May 2012
Posts: 1,393
Cameron Park, California
Originally Posted by Mr. Cid
Originally Posted by Bobpickle
I'd second Sand Tiger's suggestion to read the 3 successive articles on that website having just read them myself.

This is a good starting place: http://www.mtnacertification.org/

I'll simply add that you should look for and lean towards someone with credentials.


This is actually a great website from what I hear. Also, what you tell me are what some of my friends tell me. That I should look for someone with credentials. But, I hear stories of phenomenal pianist that are very good at teaching. Should I give a glance in that direction as well?


Great pianists are one thing, but for great pianists to also be great teachers, 9 times out of 10, they will have credentials of some sort (piano-related, teaching-specific degrees are the best to look for - i.e. "piano pedagogy").


"[The trick to life isn't] just about living forever. The trick is still living with yourself forever."
#2030200 - 02/10/13 02:11 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 13
MidnightSwooner Offline
Junior Member
MidnightSwooner  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 13
Just posting so I can find this thread again later...good info here.

#2030222 - 02/10/13 03:15 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
4evrBeginR Offline
1000 Post Club Member
4evrBeginR  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
California
If you need the teacher to travel to you, you should cover the teacher's travel time. So if you have a half hour lesson and your teacher takes 15 minutes to travel to your place, you should pay for an 1-hour lesson. I have done this before for my son for a short time because of complicated set of circumstances. As this was quite expensive, we did work things out and travel to the teacher as soon as circumstance allowed.

As for style of music, you should find a teacher who teaches what you want to learn. I see some teachers advertise they can teach anything a student may want to learn. That only work for a complete beginner. Most classically trained teacher could teach some jazz, but they cannot really teach it at an intermediate level. If you are into jazz, you should find a jazz player.

It's not a good idea to have more than one teacher at a time. You can go from one to the next but not a good idea to have more than one at the same time because every teacher have slightly different ideas on technique, interpretation, and other details. You'll end up frustrating yourself and your teachers if you have more than one.

When I started lessons, I had them once a month, then twice a month, finally once a week. I really don't need them once a week. When I saw my teacher once a month we had a consultant client relationship. When I had lessons every week, it became more a teacher student relationship. The different is subtle but important.


Art is never finished, only abandoned. - da Vinci
#2030636 - 02/10/13 05:32 PM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: 4evrBeginR]  
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,273
MaryBee Offline
1000 Post Club Member
MaryBee  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,273
Cleveland, OH
Originally Posted by 4evrBeginR
When I saw my teacher once a month we had a consultant client relationship. When I had lessons every week, it became more a teacher student relationship. The different is subtle but important.
I'm curious what you find the difference to be and how it affected your learning. Which did you prefer?


Mary Bee
Current mantra: Play outside the box.
[Linked Image] [Linked Image] [Linked Image] XVI-XXXVI
#2030906 - 02/11/13 03:27 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: MaryBee]  
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
4evrBeginR Offline
1000 Post Club Member
4evrBeginR  Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,607
California
What happens is that it allows me to work on one or two technical improvements each week instead of telling me all the technical requirements of a piece ahead of time, which I could not manage, remember, or deliver on.

Weekly lessons also force me to practice more frequently. I hate showing up for lessons without showing some sort of progress.


Art is never finished, only abandoned. - da Vinci
#2030940 - 02/11/13 06:11 AM Re: What and How Should I Look For an Instructor? [Re: Mr. Cid]  
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 17
Larry C Offline
Junior Member
Larry C  Offline
Junior Member

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 17
Naples, FL
Several points of input

[1] Find a teacher who is focused on the style of music you want to play. I started out w/ an excellent teacher/piano player but he was totally focused on classical music and I wanted to play fake sheet jazz and pop, not a good fit

[2] Find a teacher who understands that adults learn different than children and you should know how you best learn (theory based, visual based, sound based, etc) ... this is very important as 'your mother doesn't make you practice' ... you need someone who works with how you learn .. also if you need to be pushed, get a pushy instructor, if not then don't

[3] Find someone you can like, you're going to spend a lot of time w/ them and it should be the highlight of your week

[4] Personally, I also wanted someone who'd do Skype-based lessons so if I was away we could keep lessons going ... I didn't want to swap in another instructor as I traveled .. minor point but it helped me

Travel time, degrees, etc aren't as important in my opinion, at least for the first few years of lessons, you're just a beginner

After two instructors and 4 years of lessons, I am very happy w/ my instructor

I think it takes a few lessons to really know


Steinway K-52 upright
Mason & Hamlin 50 upright
Need Piano2 and Nord Stage keyboards
Page 1 of 2 1 2

Moderated by  BB Player, casinitaly 

UK Members
Please check in
UK Members & Friends
Checking on our members and friends from the UK. Please Check In When Able
Piano Acc. & Gift Items in
Piano World's Online Store
In PianoSupplies.com ,(a division of Piano World) our online store for piano and music gifts and accessories, party goods, tuning equipment, piano moving equipment, benches, lamps Caster Cups and more.


Free Shipping on Jansen Artist Piano Benches
ad
Pierce Piano Atlas


(ad)
Pianoteq
Grotrian Concert
Royal
for Pianoteq out now
What's Hot!!
Why Do You Play The Piano?
-------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
-------------------
Forums RULES & HELP
-------------------
ADVERTISE on Piano World
-------------------
Piano Classified Ads
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Counting Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"
by tjkane. 05/23/17 11:15 AM
Kawai K300 vs. K600 difference in action feel
by jokke. 05/23/17 10:00 AM
Piano mystery? All help appreciated!
by RubiconVette805161. 05/23/17 09:31 AM
Kawai Ks5f
by Seano. 05/23/17 09:31 AM
Removing very old keys
by Don B. Cilly. 05/23/17 06:39 AM
(ad)
Sheet Music Plus
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
Forum Statistics
Forums44
Topics179,833
Posts2,628,996
Members87,854
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010
Report Problems With New Forums
Report Problems with New Forums Here!
Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter |


copyright 1997 - 2017 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.6.0