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#2023158 - 01/29/13 01:22 AM Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have?  
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Now that the newest products have been displayed, are you inspired to buy something new? Maybe you want to replace an aging piece of gear with something announced. If so, what was it? Personally I have my eye on the Kawai VPC1...


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#2023160 - 01/29/13 01:29 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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#2023163 - 01/29/13 01:30 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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Nothing I have to have, but I really like the Casio PX-5S! If I were interested in full weight actions I'd also be interested in the VPC1 but not these days.

At the moment I'd like a simple, compact and lightweight 76-key MIDI controller, A in the bass, with "medium" weight keys like the Casio series or second preference semi-weighted.

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#2023166 - 01/29/13 01:41 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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#2023167 - 01/29/13 01:46 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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Originally Posted by thercman
Now that the newest products have been displayed ...


Where is the Physis Piano, since NAMM is now over with?

Or, will it get displayed in a different event, instead?

#2023174 - 01/29/13 02:25 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: pv88]  
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*If* it gets displayed at all. Maybe they have somewhat of a working prototype but I'm kinda questioning the "marketability" of such a product.

I'll keep an eye on it though, just out of curiosity.


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#2023179 - 01/29/13 02:29 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I believe Physis is developed by Viscount (in Italy), so it's perhaps more likely to see this instrument at Frankfurt Musikmesse in April.

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#2023180 - 01/29/13 02:30 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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#2023181 - 01/29/13 02:30 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: pv88]  
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Originally Posted by pv88
Originally Posted by thercman
Now that the newest products have been displayed ...


Where is the Physis Piano, since NAMM is now over with?

Or, will it get displayed in a different event, instead?


Vaporware ....


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#2023183 - 01/29/13 02:36 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: Kawai James]  
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The original expected release was supposed to have been:

Re: Physis Piano

Or, the text, from the above:

I'm told that it will be commercially available this Fall - probably November or December. I'd expect it to arrive in showrooms first in Europe and soon after in the US.

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#2023218 - 01/29/13 03:43 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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#2023224 - 01/29/13 03:55 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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Ah, yeah, the Vibanet looked and sounded awesome!

Would love to get one. One of my colleagues here has a Vintage Vibe...as it happens he's also the VPC1 project leader. wink

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#2023231 - 01/29/13 04:06 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: Kawai James]  
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Wasn't "introduced" to it but still "gotta have". Either the Fazioli 278 or 228... 3hearts cool


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#2023235 - 01/29/13 04:15 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: Kawai James]  
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Originally Posted by Kawai James
Ah, yeah, the Vibanet looked and sounded awesome!

Would love to get one. One of my colleagues here has a Vintage Vibe...as it happens he's also the VPC1 project leader. wink

James
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Very cool. The Vintage Vibe has been an absolute joy to own. I expect the Vibanet will provide a funkin good time. I'm expecting the VPC to be a big step up form the action of the A88. With the Jupiter as a controlled device, I really don't need any other controllers on the VPC.


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#2023241 - 01/29/13 04:35 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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Vpc, px5s.

For the rest....mwah; no real relevations.

Hoped for a new kurzweil , but nothing happened. From the Apple front no news either, no Logic X , new Mainstage or anything similar. But we knew they abandoned the pro AV market long ago, so no surprise...

Perhaps next year when tablets had their next power boost well see a lot more professional music software and synths for ios and android. Then you can skip the laptop and gig with your tablet entirely. Nice touch interface , small footprint.

#2023254 - 01/29/13 05:27 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I'm a computer geek, but it really REALLY warms the cockles of my heart that they are still making real Rhodes and Clavinets! Good times indeed.

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#2023319 - 01/29/13 09:22 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I will very likely buy the VPC1, though I may wait a year or so before I do it (gotta sell my current DP and probably going to move as well).

#2023320 - 01/29/13 09:24 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I'm definitely buying a PX-5S and a CME XKey.

Other than that, there's something appealing about the Roland VR-09, but I don't know if it quite really fills a need for me any better than things I already have, or if it is (more likely) only a different-but-equal tradeoff. What I really would have hoped for is a drawbar organ board from someone with 73+ keys that went down at least to the low E and at least a 2-way split function with sounds that go out separate outputs, and preferably aftertouch. Also some MIDI controller functionality, at least enough so that, when I want the best organ sound, I could trigger VB3 (i.e. the ability to use its drawbars to send CC, and the ability for its presets to send MIDI Program Change). And ideally pitch and mod wheels. The closest thing to that looks to be the new 88-key Hammond SK1, but I can't justify its supposed $3k price tag, especially since it still lacks some of those features. If their 73 was C-to-C instead of F-to-F, that would have tempted me.

#2023334 - 01/29/13 09:52 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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#2023361 - 01/29/13 10:57 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I'm really looking a getting a VR-09 when it comes out and probably the PX-5S later this year.


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#2023371 - 01/29/13 11:27 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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I think I'm with anotherscott on this one. If the PX-5s has APs and EPs that are really musical, and a decent action, it would mean I don't have to spend $3k on a Nord, and would (once again) have a very lightweight gigging board that is physically compact. The VR-09 is interesting as a lightweight second-tier board that should have better organs than the XW-P1 (meaning I don't have to use a PC with VB3), but I haven't really heard a demo that shows off the basic sounds rather than all the frills.

The VPC looks great, but I still don't like using piano VSTs in outboard gear, with all the tinkering that has to be done.

Studiologic announced something (sort of) that could be interesting - the Numa Concert, with wooden keys and 1GB nine-layer piano samples that weighs 45lbs.

Wish I could justify a Vintage Vibe product.


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#2023378 - 01/29/13 11:45 AM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: voxpops]  
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Originally Posted by voxpops
The VR-09 is interesting as a lightweight second-tier board that should have better organs than the XW-P1 (meaning I don't have to use a PC with VB3), but I haven't really heard a demo that shows off the basic sounds rather than all the frills.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9k-NBb_a5k but skip past the first 90 seconds. Organs are at about 9 minutes. Yes, that should beat the XW. More sounds at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuV3CcioIIU I suspect that its rompler sounds will generally beat the XW, though maybe not the PX-5S.


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I forgot the King Korg, which seems interesting but as always no aftertouch ; why the ...not ?!

Prophet is nice too ;-)

#2023542 - 01/29/13 05:34 PM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: anotherscott]  
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Originally Posted by anotherscott
I'm definitely buying a PX-5S and a CME XKey.

Scott,

Do you have an iPad?

Or will you draw upon the internal sound of the PX5S for the XKey?

Will this pretty much be your road gear aside from some sort of amplification?

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Originally Posted by o0Ampy0o
Originally Posted by anotherscott
I'm definitely buying a PX-5S and a CME XKey.

Scott,

Do you have an iPad?

Or will you draw upon the internal sound of the PX5S for the XKey?

Will this pretty much be your road gear aside from some sort of amplification?

I do have an iPad. I'm not sure what I'll do with the Xkey yet, I don't know whether I'll gig with it. But it just looks too cool not to have. ;-)

As for my gig rig, I have a bunch of stuff and switch things around, always looking for the closest-to-perfect setup (which also sometimes varies with the nature of the particular gig). I expect that the PX5S will be my go-to weighted 88. I'm not sure what my top board will usually be (and that may also vary with whether or not I bring a rack on some gigs). Every board is a compromise.

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Not really.

Companies are still mostly stuck in the 90's if technology is concerned.

No leap forward in computer or tablet integration, we're still stuck with MIDI and < 128Mb sample sets with < 10 velocity layer and looping.

Still a lot of weird market segmentation going on where most devices seem like they somehow miss the mark on at least one essential feature. Also often quantity over quality.

If the pX-5S (a pretty decent instrument) is the biggest sensation of the NAMM then the whole sector is in a pretty sorry state indeed.


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Originally Posted by Nigeth
Companies are still mostly stuck in the 90's if technology is concerned.

Also often quantity over quality.

If the pX-5S (a pretty decent instrument) is the biggest sensation of the NAMM then the whole sector is in a pretty sorry state indeed.


Yeah, this means that companies like Casio (for example) only care about raking in f*****g greenbacks into their big deep pockets, as it's all about sales. Looks like profit surpasses quality every time.

#2023637 - 01/29/13 08:55 PM Re: Did NAMM 2013 introduce something you gotta have? [Re: thercman]  
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Definitely gotta have the PX-5s. It's really a rather unique combination of features - especially for this price range.

Casio didn't play it safe, and just do something like a cheap knock-off of a Nord or simply update the PX-3. I think they went out on a limb on this one, and from the sound of the demos ended up knocking the ball out of the park.

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Originally Posted by pv88
Originally Posted by Nigeth
Companies are still mostly stuck in the 90's if technology is concerned.

Also often quantity over quality.

If the pX-5S (a pretty decent instrument) is the biggest sensation of the NAMM then the whole sector is in a pretty sorry state indeed.


Yeah, this means that companies like Casio (for example) only care about raking in f*****g greenbacks into their big deep pockets, as it's all about sales. Looks like profit surpasses quality every time.


When did Casio become a charity? I missed the announcement...


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