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Not a bad guess by me . Congratulations CASIO and Mike on this new release!
Vikas Sharma 'without music, life would be a mistake' - F Nietzsche
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The only two digitals worth reporting about (from NAMM) are: 1) Physis Piano - http://www.physispiano.com/2) Alpha Piano - http://www.alpha-piano.com/The Physis uses modeled sounds and the Alpha has an action from a real 9-foot grand. Actually, all digital piano makers have missed the mark if they don't incorporate a true 9-foot grand action into a purely modeled digital, which neither of the two above combine, into one instrument.
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That Alpha Piano is plain ugly, unless you're living in a Startrek environment. Perhaps Porche Design isn't the right party to go to , for designing instruments. Or for TV's (Toshiba), harddrives (LaCie) or some other design failures for that matter. Perhaps they should try their skills on sports cars. Just a thought...
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Second note;
if they had just sticked to classic black and skipped the fake silver/ chrome on the stand and several other parts , that would already make a difference. I don't have anything against modern / sleek design, but these chrome parts break it and as a whole I personally don't see this fit in within most interiors.
And wireless pedals. Nice gimmick, as long as it works - and keeps on working. Form follows functions, follows form...
But who cares - It's probably vaporware anyway ; would be very surprised if this really hit the marked any time soon , or at all.
Edit: uhm..."The ALPHA Studio is available starting at 29,000 euros, including 20% VAT. It is expected to be deliverable as of 2011. We would be happy to take reservations and orders immediately."
Here we are 2013 and counting. I DO however applaud some of the features they implemented , like adjustable height and new sensor mechanism.
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€30.000 for what exactly?
An unproven action, an unproven modeling from an unproven manufacturer thats been vaporware so far.
I could buy a Kronos X, a Nord Stage 2, the new Kawai VPC, an PC, Ivory II, Pianoteq 4, Imperfect Samples, National Instruments Komplete and a V-Piano plus stands and accessories and still end up with enough money left over to buy a car. (My utilities bill would go through the roof though).
Or I could buy a real grand piano plus the cost of remodeling a room to put it in.
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That Alpha Piano looks like one of the huge tank like things from the movie Tron.
I wasn't expecting anything beautiful though. Porsche design only does ugly.
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Never mind Alpha - is Physis Piano ever going to appear?
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From their web page:
Visit us at Musikmesse Frankfurt 5th - 9th of April 2001 hall 5.0
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€30,000 including 20% sales tax/VAT would be €25,200 excluding tax or $33,600 at today's exchange rate.
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Never mind Alpha - is Physis Piano ever going to appear? From the website: "Physis piano is an idea." And a good one! Hoping NAMM 2013 is where it's revealed to be more than an idea...
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Apogee Digital announced they will be shipping iOS-compatible versions of all their desktop audio interfaces: ONE, Duet, and Quartet. The two- and four-channel versions will now feature MIDI as well as audio I/O--some seriously high-end interfaces for all Apple's iOS devices: http://www.apogeedigital.com
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This may indeed be a real product. But given that the bulk of pianos sell for less than $2000, and that the market thins out above that ...
At 29000 Euros ($39000) ... even with a discount this won't be a hot seller. One might show up in a movie as a show piece, or in a museum, or at Donald Trump's mansion. But not in very many living rooms, eh?
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We would be happy to take reservations and orders immediately."
I just bet they would.
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Perhaps Porche Design isn't the right party to go to , for designing instruments... It's a hit and miss industry. Certainly their design for Bosendorfer is stunning in person. Bosendorfer Piano - Design by F.A.Porche
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Gah, the Alpha Piano looks like something Jean-Luc Picard practices on while not busy commanding the Enterprise.
The Physis piano looks like a nice experiment or concept, not much different from a concept car that attracts all the attention at exhibitions but ends up in the manufacturer's private museum or such. I mean, does anyone really want to tinker with every single tiniest detail of the sound the instrument produces?
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Alpha Piano comes with Vienna Imperial - stretched samples and no half-pedalling. I would expect something better than this from a 30k piano...
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Alpha Piano comes with Vienna Imperial - stretched samples and no half-pedalling. I would expect something better than this from a 30k piano... I suppose there's always MIDI and / or VST...
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