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#2020871 - 01/25/13 02:30 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Not in person we wouldn't, but hopefully on here we can coexist. grin In real life, we gravitate toward or away from people by good instinct, according to how we mesh or not. On the net, we're together with people we wouldn't ever get involved with in real life. It's one of the great things about it, but also one of the challenges.
edit: John's post (below) made me realize that this didn't come out how I intended it. I didn't mean we only meet such people on the net; I meant also.


Of course, I appreciate and respect your feelings.

It was just a suggestion - but one I've thought about making for several months - and now I've done it. ha
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#2020896 - 01/25/13 04:27 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
You guys live in the same city. Why not get together for coffee ?? ....



or a duel?
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#2021001 - 01/25/13 09:16 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: stores]
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Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: carey
You guys live in the same city. Why not get together for coffee ?? ....



or a duel?


or a duet?

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#2021161 - 01/25/13 02:45 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: ando]
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Originally Posted By: ando
Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: carey
You guys live in the same city. Why not get together for coffee ?? ....



or a duel?


or a duet?

Java would probably be sufficient. smile
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#2021331 - 01/25/13 07:17 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Carey]
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Originally Posted By: carey
Originally Posted By: ando
Originally Posted By: stores
Originally Posted By: carey
You guys live in the same city. Why not get together for coffee ?? ....



or a duel?


or a duet?

Java would probably be sufficient. smile

Java? No.

They need to get tanked. laugh

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#2021442 - 01/26/13 01:00 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Old Man]
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Originally Posted By: Old Man
....They need to get tanked. laugh

I don't drink.

I could practically be a Mormon. smile

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#2021447 - 01/26/13 01:08 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Old Man
....They need to get tanked. laugh

I don't drink.

I could practically be a Mormon. smile

How many wives do you have?
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#2021449 - 01/26/13 01:09 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Derulux]
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Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Old Man
....They need to get tanked. laugh
I don't drink.

I could practically be a Mormon. smile

How many wives do you have?

(Except for that part.) ha

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#2021594 - 01/26/13 11:09 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
If anything, I wish modern CD's and the like were done on old vinyl. ha


Vinyl doesn't compare to the warmth of wax cylinders.

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#2021660 - 01/26/13 01:20 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
If anything, I wish modern CD's and the like were done on old vinyl. ha

Vinyl doesn't compare to the warmth of wax cylinders.

Getting harder and harder to tell your sarcasm from your straight. ha

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#2021683 - 01/26/13 01:50 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Damon, do you even have any wax cylinders?
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#2021790 - 01/26/13 05:46 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Damon, do you even have any wax cylinders?



No.

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#2021799 - 01/26/13 06:05 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Derulux
Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Originally Posted By: Old Man
....They need to get tanked. laugh
I don't drink.

I could practically be a Mormon. smile

How many wives do you have?

(Except for that part.) ha


This is too funny. I have been mostly offline for a few months. I see that not much has changed. smile

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#2021834 - 01/26/13 07:31 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Damon, do you even have any wax cylinders?


No.

Sarcasm lost methinks.
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#2021840 - 01/26/13 07:51 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Andromaque]
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Originally Posted By: Andromaque

I have been mostly offline for a few months.


I noticed. Did you get involved with too many "tea party" events to participate?

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#2021845 - 01/26/13 08:04 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Damon]
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Originally Posted By: Damon
Did you get involved with too many "tea party" events to participate?

No, she is too intelligent.
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#2021860 - 01/26/13 08:27 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: argerichfan]
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Originally Posted By: argerichfan
Originally Posted By: Damon
Did you get involved with too many "tea party" events to participate?

No, she is too intelligent.


Great comeback!

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#2021925 - 01/27/13 12:15 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Damon]
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smile
Cheers, Damon!

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#2023590 - 01/29/13 06:16 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Michael_99]
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Originally Posted By: Michael_99
Most of us couldn't afford a ticket to go and see Horowitz play live when he was alife, particularly as close as the camera filming his fingers, but we can afford to click on youtube and see it for free and critique his playing.


Hear, hear. Couldn't agree more. First I was intrigued by the subject of the post. Then I took the trouble to go to all the timings he so carefully laid out for us. Then I looked at them again because at first I couldn't see anything I could remotely call a swindle. Then I saw at the very last 1/2 second his left hand stops before his right. That I didn't hear anything lacking either says something about the video's audio, my hearing, or simply that it's still Chopin's lovely music even if 1/2 second of 1/2 the hands in use don't play about 4 or 5 notes.

Virtuosity is a thrill, but not as an end of itself. This piano world of ours has gotten too enamored of virtuosity and it seems at the price of the music. imho, of course


Edited by toyboy (01/29/13 06:18 PM)
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#2023614 - 01/29/13 07:10 PM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: toyboy]
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Nice post!

Originally Posted By: toyboy
....even if 1/2 second of 1/2 the hands in use don't play about 4 or 5 notes....

Just for the record grin ....I think it's just 2 notes! (I think he omits only the G and A, maybe also the preceding F.)

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#2023890 - 01/30/13 08:00 AM Re: Just discovered this 'cheat' that Horowitz does.... :-) [Re: Mark_C]
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Originally Posted By: Mark_C
Nice post!

Originally Posted By: toyboy
....even if 1/2 second of 1/2 the hands in use don't play about 4 or 5 notes....

Just for the record grin ....I think it's just 2 notes! (I think he omits only the G and A, maybe also the preceding F.)


ok i revise: 1/4 second of 1/2 the hands then.
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