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Does anyone have a good method of recognizing notes on the staff (both staffs) ? I seem to be hesitant (need to calculate) what the note is, particularly those above and below the staff.
Any advice is appreciated.

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Play slowly and say the note names outloud as you play.

It won't take long.



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Do you have a smartphone? There are dozens of note reading/flash-card applications.


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The spaces, treble (upper) clef

FACE.

The lines, same clef.

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You`ll have to improvise for the lower .. . . the sequences flow into each other.


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Yes Vince, I believe I do have a good method for reading notes. By the way, I don't like the little sayings. Takes too long and like peterws mentioned, it doesn't cover the bass clef or ledger lines.

Send me a PM with your email and I'll send you my method for reading notes.


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thank you Don

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thank you Jim. i did come across a good site with flash cards perhaps I just need a new approach in using them.
thanx again for responding.

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Originally Posted by Vince R
thank you Jim. i did come across a good site with flash cards perhaps I just need a new approach in using them.
thanx again for responding.


What was your method for "calculating", as you say, the note names?

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e-b-g-d-f
f-a-c-e

a-c-e-g
g-b-d-f-a

I say the name of lines and spaces. in other words, a note on 6th. line (treble) I know f is 5th. g A.

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Vince, you aren't the only with this problem!

I don't know what resources may be avilable online (I wrote music out myself to teach my boys reading on guitar) but a good way of getting over this hurdle to do a little sight reading in each hand separately on top of you normal curriculum. Recorder music for beginners begins, usually, with the three notes G, A and B. This might be a good place to start and only when the staves are known expand to ledger lines.

Someone wrote an excellent post on this forum some time ago about the ACE trick of recognising the first ledger lines above and below both staves as containing the notes A, C and E and once the pattern is learnt terrific progress can be made. Keep it in mind for later.

Get used to notes falling around G in the treble clef and F in the bass clef and expand as your comfort zone grows. It really doesn't take as long as you might think.



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Just another thought on this ...

Do not lose sight of the fact that you must also know which key on the keyboard corresponds to that note.

It is not enough to just look at the staff and say the note name. You must also play that note on your keyboard at the same time. You must associate that note name with a particular key on the keyboard.

There may be lots of fancy ways to approach this but I happen to think that just sitting at the piano and playing single notes (from simple melody lines) and saying the note names as you play will give as good a result as any.

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Acronym for the bass clef:

Spaces: All Cows Eat Grass

Lines: Green Birds Don't Fly Away

or

Good Boys Deserve Fudge Always

EDIT: The notes below and above the staff on the lines spell A C E just remember below the bass clef you are reading it down : E C A

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Thank you Bill, that actually does help

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This is probably as good as anything for external drilling.



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Drill, drill, drill. Same way you learned the alphabet. It will become second nature, it just takes a little time.

It's helpful to remember that if a given note is on a line, then in next octave it will be in a space. Ex: Middle C is on a line, but the C above and the C below are both in spaces.



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Just posted in another thread and great in its versatility; http://www.sightreadingpractice.com/

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Originally Posted by Oongawa
It's helpful to remember that if a given note is on a line, then in next octave it will be in a space. Ex: Middle C is on a line, but the C above and the C below are both in spaces.
That's a great tip! I use that often, and something similar while looking at the piano, especially around middle C where notes can be written in either clef with ledger lines. If a note is a line in one clef, it will also be a line in the other. So play a note on the piano, say E above middle C. Line note, no matter where it's written.


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if you have digital and if you can connect your DP to a computer you can use NoteCards
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