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#2019267 - 01/22/13 07:35 PM What is a "concert tuning"?  
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Is this just another name for a higher level tuning than is normally done on home instruments? The type of tuning that usually only a professional pianist might want or require?

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#2019269 - 01/22/13 07:43 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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#2019274 - 01/22/13 07:48 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Does a higher level mean A=448?


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#2019284 - 01/22/13 08:24 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Does a higher level mean A=448?


No. Some tune to A441 to A443 but no one tunes higher than A444, and those people are nuts.

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#2019285 - 01/22/13 08:27 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: beethoven986]  
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Originally Posted by beethoven986
Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Does a higher level mean A=448?


No. Some tune to A441 to A443 but no one tunes higher than A444, and those people are nuts.


Yeah, I charge less for 438. wink

Funny one Mr. Marty!!


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#2019289 - 01/22/13 08:32 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by pianoloverus
Is this just another name for a higher level tuning than is normally done on home instruments? The type of tuning that usually only a professional pianist might want or require?


Due to the rigors of virtuoso playing, concert pianos have to be extremely stable. To get there, the piano has to essentially be in tune already. Anything greater than a few cents difference will not be stably tuned. In ideal circumstances, a concert instrument will be tuned at least twice on the day of the concert, once before rehearsal, and once afterward.

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Originally Posted by accordeur
Originally Posted by beethoven986
Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Does a higher level mean A=448?


No. Some tune to A441 to A443 but no one tunes higher than A444, and those people are nuts.


Yeah, I charge less for 438. wink

Funny one Mr. Marty!!


Jean, I'm glad someone around here has a sense of humor. I guess we need to include that Groot feller and Dave Jensen. B-toven just doesn't understand! Could PLU really be serious? He's been here since 2001 and has an opinion on everything.


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#2019297 - 01/22/13 08:46 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Yeah, I try to stay away, but sometimes I can't help myself.

I've been on here since the days of the coffee room. Under a different name at the time. Notemalade I beleive was my

All good fun. wink


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#2019304 - 01/22/13 08:55 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I knew exactly what you meant Marty and giggled when I read it. I agree with your assesment of the question too. smile


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#2019320 - 01/22/13 09:23 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
B-toven just doesn't understand!


I got it.... just didn't think it was funny. grin

Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Could PLU really be serious?


I'll bet you a Kimball spinet he is....

#2019337 - 01/22/13 09:53 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: Minnesota Marty]  
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Originally Posted by Minnesota Marty
Could PLU really be serious? He's been here since 2001 and has an opinion on everything.
Are either of those supposed to be bad?

#2019359 - 01/22/13 10:44 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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For the case being, his answer was appropriate, and above 443-44 you will experiment some easy string breakage on some "German scales" (understood as high BS % used soon in the scale *)

The question was not about pitch anyway...

Dont complain about over enthusiastic people, the race is near of extinction wink

(*) Schimmel, Sauter, for instance

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#2019373 - 01/22/13 11:10 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: Olek]  
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A concert tuning is a tuning done for a concert. Like Beethoven said, the tuning's stability is very important, given that the artist is likely demanding more of the instrument than most home players do, and there are presumably a lot of people watching and listening, who would notice if the tuning is falling apart. So there's a lot riding on the tuning, for both the artist and the tuner. Well, that's my take on the subject.


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#2019383 - 01/22/13 11:30 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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What? No comments on grammar????

#2019425 - 01/23/13 01:36 AM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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My aunt's concert tuning sounds larger than my cousin's pitch raise.

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#2019476 - 01/23/13 06:45 AM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: Supply]  
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See, I actually had something to say about the topic that hadn't been said yet. But now that the topic has basically run dry, watch out!


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#2019482 - 01/23/13 07:26 AM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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I did, and only have seen grey sky and snow clouds. Or is it rain ?


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#2019604 - 01/23/13 11:42 AM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Originally Posted by Zeno Wood
A concert tuning is a tuning done for a concert. Like Beethoven said, the tuning's stability is very important, given that the artist is likely demanding more of the instrument than most home players do, and there are presumably a lot of people watching and listening, who would notice if the tuning is falling apart. So there's a lot riding on the tuning, for both the artist and the tuner. Well, that's my take on the subject.


Originally Posted by Supply
What? No comments on grammar????


Well, you could have contacted the comma police and reported Zeno….


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#2019611 - 01/23/13 12:01 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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It is a comma-nist conspiracy!


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#2019615 - 01/23/13 12:04 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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Good one.


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#2019687 - 01/23/13 02:31 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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A concert tuning is a tuning done just prior to a concert. You try to bring your "A" game and you make sure you are cordial to the artist and you take a bow if you run late, or have to adjust some unisons during the intermission.

(No one ever applauds, but I bow anyway. It's just the principal of the thing darn it!)


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#2019705 - 01/23/13 03:06 PM Re: What is a "concert tuning"? [Re: pianoloverus]  
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You don't David? I get applauded all the time! They're thrilled to death that I'm finished!


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A concert tuning is a tuning supposed to hold for one hour or two.



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A concert tuning is at a higher level than the orchestra seats, but lower than the balcony.


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The church choir robes were too long and needed to be hymned.

The concert resumed once the conductor pitched his wand.
With that said......,
With the apocalypse approaching, armageddon out of here!




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Originally Posted by Olek
A concert tuning is a tuning supposed to hold for one hour or two.



Hey, by that standard, I do concert tunings too! (And mine don't even need a concert pianist to drift.)


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Eye-roll again!


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