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#2078226 - 05/06/13 10:09 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: dynamobt]  
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dynamobt - That is a very impressive line up that you played for the evaluator! That really is a major achievement! You deserve your pizza and beer!

My AOTW is getting a halfway decent recording submitted for the AFB recital. It is not perfect, but it is the best I can do at this point of my piano journey. I really appreciate the opportunity this forum offers to do these recitals, because it forces me to polish pieces to a higher standard that I might otherwise do. I think we grow as pianists when we have that kind of pressure. My teacher told me she really appreciates it too! She really enjoyed working on the finishing touches with me.

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#2078370 - 05/06/13 02:44 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Not an achievement as such, but I am excited grin

I am arranging skype lessons with a fantastic Kodaly teacher, which will hopefully give me a great foundation in sight-singing and developing my aural and general musicianship skills to give me a solid foundation for piano sight reading and interval recognition etc. Yay!!!


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#2078388 - 05/06/13 03:09 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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My teacher called in sick today. Boo! With lessons on monday, a lot of them are getting lost thanks to various holidays around this time of the year. I spent the time productively, though: manned up and got myself a video to go with the recital. Feels good to finish things properly smile


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#2079043 - 05/07/13 10:18 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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No stunning AOTW, just steady improvement with all my current pieces.

I had a good lesson today; I think because they are all things I chose to do rather than just the next piece in the lesson book. I guess if I had one it would be that my teacher noticed and commented on my much improved reading of the music.


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#2079077 - 05/08/13 01:09 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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I gave up on Chopin Etude No 3 about six weeks ago. It is only the first section and because it's in Alfred's AIO Piano Course Book 2 it was misleading that it might be easy.

I guess why it is so difficult is polyphonic pieces are something completely new to me and requires a developed hand independence.

I took it up again a few days ago after renewed confidence in completing a difficult piece (to me anyway) and submitting it for the forum recital.

I knew if I just broke it down into sections and practiced each section, sometimes hands separate and at very slow speeds eventually I would be able to play it. So it's early days but I have managed to overcome a few physical and mental hurdles. I am so happy with the progress and even although I can't play it straight through yet I still feel I have had win.


Problems with piano are 90% psychological, the other 10% is in your head.

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#2079079 - 05/08/13 01:13 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: Dulcetta]  
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Originally Posted by Dulcetta
Not an achievement as such, but I am excited grin

I am arranging skype lessons with a fantastic Kodaly teacher, which will hopefully give me a great foundation in sight-singing and developing my aural and general musicianship skills to give me a solid foundation for piano sight reading and interval recognition etc. Yay!!!


Be interested to see how this pans out, if you do feel it benefits your sight reading.


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#2079103 - 05/08/13 02:49 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Mary Ann - I hope things pick up for you piano wise. First loss is a bit tricky, (for me), but tackling it a few bars at a time is getting me there slowly but surely.

Dynambot - take care of your back!!!!!

SwissMS - congrats on the submission - isn't it nice when our PW objectives mesh so well with our lesson work smile

Dulcetta: good luck with the new teacher! How exciting!

Ragdoll: Congrats on feeling so much better about your lesson times! That's real success!

Allard: I hate it when I have to miss a lesson - but it does sound like you've made good use of your time!

EarlofMar ---- There's always that piece we want to play ..."but it is too hard to play"...now. Breaking it into bite size pieces as you're doing is going to get you there!

I had a fabulous lesson yesterday - showed my teacher what I'd done on the Sicilienne - and he was pleased with my analysis of what had to be done. I also showed him the Watchman's Song I'm doing for the Greig recital and he liked it. We went over some of the fingerings to make them easier (and in some cases more logical) - and he gave me the historical snapshot of how this piece fits into the big picture. It was very interesting. I also learned that in the middle of my piece the term "Intermezzo" in the score gives a certain amount of artistic freedom to the performer...so I'm a bit more relaxed about those 32nd notes!

I also got some music for a simple duet version of the Radetzy Waltz I'm going to play with the student whose lesson is right after mine. He's 14, and has a fair amount of experience playing duets. I told him he had to be patient and kind smile



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Casinitaly, I just took a look at Greig's The Watchman's Song. What a beautiful piece, just loved the sound of the melody. Good luck with learning this piece.


Problems with piano are 90% psychological, the other 10% is in your head.

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#2079361 - 05/08/13 02:53 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Hi! I had a very busy week, and it's not easy to find an AOTW.
I realized I'm not able to really polish pieces, there is always one detail out of place (often more than one); my recital is due in 3 weeks (June 1st) and I don't feel prepared. I will not play by memory, I do not want to add useless stress.

Ok, I have an AOTW: I'm really enjoying the Bach Polonaise I'm studying: quite simple, it's taking shape and it's short and relaxing. And I don't have yet to polish it.


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#2079399 - 05/08/13 04:12 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: torquenale]  
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Originally Posted by torquenale


Ok, I have an AOTW: I'm really enjoying the Bach Polonaise I'm studying: quite simple, it's taking shape and it's short and relaxing. And I don't have yet to polish it.


If your really enjoying the piece that is marvelous and not having to polish it, how I long for one of those


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#2079416 - 05/08/13 04:43 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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This week...

Chopin Prelude in E minor --- still need polishing but I've noticed that I'm a lot more consistent with hitting the notes at the right tempo on this one problem spot

Burgmuller Op 100 No 7 --- at 50%, a work in progress for sure. Must say, I was inspired by Saranoya to learn this piece. It was the first time I've heard of this song when she posted it on the April piano bar i do believe.

River Flows in You --- I got the easy piano version on the first day I started playing the piano. Of course, I was clueless so I shoved it in a drawer hoping one day I'll be good enough to learn it. Yesterday, I happened to think about it again and I wanted to see how much I've progressed in 4 months. Happy to announce that I was able to play it with both hands....sounded rough and slow but I couldn't even do that 4 months ago.



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#2079583 - 05/09/13 12:26 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: aTallGuyNH]  
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Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
She asked me the other day why I don't play for her more often (I've related a similar conversation in another post previously). My answer is always "I don't want you to get sick of it". So I said "I'll play something", and she said "not Clair de Lune please, I'm so sick of it"... Ah-haaa!! That's what I was working on during the phase when I didn't worry too much about whether she was around. No wonder it's the one thing she's sick of -- if I let her hear the other stuff, she'd be sick of that too (not blaming her, mind you).
With only an acoustic to play on, my poor husband has to hear my works in progress way too many times, but he has never complained. Today, however, after my lesson and after finishing my recording for the ABF recital, I told him that I'm staring work on a new piece, and he practically cheered. I have to admit that I'm excited to be moving on too. Next up -- Chopin's Raindrop Prelude.

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#2079633 - 05/09/13 03:18 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Earlofmar: Thanks! I'm already having a wonderful time with this music - I love it! I'm rather excited to be taking part in the themed recital, truth be told!

Torquenale: I agree with doing everything possible to remove the stress! I haven't played any Polonaises yet - but I enjoy hearing that you're having fun with yours!


ElleC: I just can't get over how quickly you are moving forward. Wow. wow. wow..... You must be just thrilled to pieces. I know I would be.

MaryBee - Raindrop! Beautiful - you'll have a lovely time working on that. I'm really fortunate to have the dual system (dp built into my acoustic). I either practice the repetitive stuff when my hubby isn't home, or with headphones when he is --then he gets to be delightfully surprised when I present him with the prepared versions.


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#2079947 - 05/09/13 05:40 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Wow thanks Casinintaly.I don't feel like it's been that quick of a progress but I do feel that my progress has been slow but steady. So far I haven't gotten to a part where I feel like I'm going absolutely nowhere.

Originally Posted by casinitaly
ElleC: I just can't get over how quickly you are moving forward. Wow. wow. wow..... You must be just thrilled to pieces. I know I would be.


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#2080172 - 05/10/13 05:59 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Hey Happy Birthday JimF !

After checking out many options, I selected this for your enjoyment. These two lads play with vim and vigor- tremendous enthusiasm, and charge on bravely despite some rather obvious flubs!

I think it may just bring a smile to your face! Wishing you a joyful day and many happy returns of the day!




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#2080179 - 05/10/13 06:37 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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my challenge was to get the rhythm just right including 8 th notes at end of measures in What Will I Do and syncopation in Willow Weep For Me a la Wes Montgomery. Using the metronome to learn to hear it and later check myself worked great. Lesson versions went well as a result.


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#2080296 - 05/10/13 11:46 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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JimF - happy birthday -

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#2080368 - 05/10/13 02:32 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: casinitaly]  
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Thanks Cathy, I'm having a great day so far.


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#2080394 - 05/10/13 03:42 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: Saranoya]  
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Originally Posted by Saranoya
OK, so I've decided that I need to do a scheduled follow-up on this thread twice a week from now on (Wednesdays, Saturdays) in order to not get drowned in responses, and then feel like I have to clear an entire Saturday morning in order to be able to give every post the attention I'd like to give it.


Oh boy. Epic FAIL on this count. And I'm so tired, and sore, and ... well, it won't do anyone any good if I continue to go down *that* particular list. Suffice it to say that now is not the time to catch up on what I've missed here, but I promise, I *will* get to you all ... tomorrow ... on Saturday morning (yeah ...).

I went to my lesson on Wednesday, but I didn't get to play anything: I had a seizure right before my scheduled lesson time, and when my teacher found me in a puddle on the floor of the lavatory, all she could do was hoist me back into my chair and call a friend to come get me.

But, I did have two new pieces ready to the point that I felt confident I could have played them in front of my teacher without making a complete fool of myself. Which, if nothing else, is an indication that I've left the 'progress plateau', if that is indeed what it was, behind me for now. I'm going to call that my AOTW.

I'm still trying to plug away at the second movement of the Moonlight Sonata, which for some reason won't let go of me, even as it stubbornly keeps refusing to start sounding like anything resembling the second movement of the Moonlight Sonata when I play it. It has become much more of a 'mission impossible' than the first movement, even though it looks easier, to me, on paper. But, I'm sticking with it. I refuse to give up. Which may not be an AOTW right now, but I'm hoping it will lead to one in the not too distant future.


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JimF - Happy birthday!
Cheryl - what a cool music.



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5) Bartok. 4 old tunes and Scherzo)
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Ok I confess that I was scolded by my teacher. I was spending time on Chopin piece (oh so much more fun) and tinkering around Grieg pieces while neglecting my Mozart piece. She told me "I don't mean to scare you but you are playing this end of August in Maine, correct? You really have to zero in on it. You have to be able to play it fluently at speed (90 per quarter note or 180 per eighth note at least!) without stopping by the beginning of July. Then we can spend time practicing duet on two pianos. It would at least take 4 to 6 weeks for you to feel comfortable playing with other part. We will get there. But yoy have to zero in on it. So don't touch Chopin or nothing else. We will get back to it when you get Mozart back on track. Otherwise your Summer camp will be Hellish instead of enjoyable experience". Oh gee. And she made me play it with metronome at 160 per eighth note. After I struggled to play it, she wrote my exclamations as I utter and where i did in my score in pencil! So I see "oh sh*t! F*ck! Darn it! " written all over my score. She told me "those are the places that you get off tempo, stop swearing, it's a waste of time". Then made me go over those places I stammered one by one. So my AoTW was that I learned that I needed to surgically operate on those places to fix it. I guess I tend to practice like a robot at home. It took so much work in my lesson that I was completely exhausted. Kinda regret for signing up for two piano thingy for SummerKey. Donno what I was thinking. This is such an ordeal.



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4) Scriabin op11 prelude #2 and #14 (Re do #2, new #14)
5) Bartok. 4 old tunes and Scherzo)
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Originally Posted by Andy Platt
But the real AotW was submitting the Nocturne to the ABF "Beginners and Beyond" recital. Woo-hoo!


That is a real achievement. Is this the first Chopin Nocturne that you got to performance level? If so, way to go, and ... I'm a little envious of you! wink

Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
Really? Did I have it right? Went to YouTube... yep, I was actually reading music off a page, away from an instrument, in a meaningful way. Crazy!


I had the same experience recently with the Adagio (second movement) from Beethoven's third piano sonata, which was excerpted in a music theory book I was reading through, but only identified as the Adagio from Beethoven's third piano sonata on the next page. It was a pretty great feeling. I'm happy you got to experience it too, and I think it will help you in your piano playing -- because when you can 'hear' the music as you read it, you're less likely to misread and learn something the wrong way. So, a pretty fabulous AOTW right there.

Originally Posted by Sam Rose
I'd love to be able to look at a piece of music and hear it, but right now it's just a dream.


Sam, given your obvious innate talent, I am sure you can acquire this skill with a little bit of training. Sight singing helps, and so does the opposite of that (melodic dictation). Get yourself some solf├Ęge books with simple melodies. These are used here in Belgium (and many other countries, I'm sure) to teach beginners how to read music before they start playing their instrument of choice. It helps your musical 'imagination', if you will, to be able to sing intervals and melodies in your mind, without having to hear them played first.

Originally Posted by FarmGirl
All my recurring theams arestuttering. This piece is one of the two double fugue in WTC. So it sounds quite confusing. I cannot believe I have to play these on Saturday evening in our recital. It shows that I did not practice for a while.


So, how did the recital go? My guess is, you were selling yourself way too short, here.

Originally Posted by maestro57
I managed to play Beethoven's Piano Sonata No. 19 in G minor, Op. 49 No. 1 with only two mistakes! And the two mistakes were because I psyched myself out - "Yes, THIS maybe the time I play it through without any errors..... <CLASH #1> .... Dang! ... <CLASH #2> <refocused>


Oh man, this is so utterly recognisable to me! It would be hilarious, except for the fact that this is basically destroys all of my recital performances and the recordings I make for PianoWorld. I don't suppose you've magically gathered some great insight on how to avoid this trap since you posted the above? wink

Originally Posted by earlofmar
AOTW was submitting my first recital piece. Didn't come easy, there is sweat and blood in there.


It's the blood and sweat that make finally submitting it so satisfying, though ... isn't it? Congratulations. I'm looking forward to hearing your submission.

Originally Posted by EdwardianPiano
Now I have to practise the whole page and play it slowly not the first bar up to speed which I can do, but play it all slow and keep going instead of first bar correct speed, stop and the rest plod plod! He also told me to start at different bars and practise the measures I struggle with more.


Oh yeah, you should so do this! Great advice! Don't worry, it took me a while to come to this conclusion, too! I only just figured it out last week! And it was such an epiphany when I did! I promise you, if you play this piece slowly -- really slowly -- for a week, you'll be playing it at double the speed you thought you could do two weeks from now! It only took me two days to double the speed by starting slowly, but it was with a piece I basically already knew how to play (I just kept flubbing when I tried to go faster).

Originally Posted by dynamobt
I played the Grande Valse Brilliante in A minor Op 34 no 2 by Chopin. The Bach D minor Invention. And the Chopin Nocturne Op 9 no 2 in E flat major.


I'm in awe of that list. Those are all pieces on my 'some day' list. I'm trying to get the Grande Valse Brilliante ready for the August B&B Recital, but I don't know that I can pull that off. In any case: wow, dynamobt. Well done!

Originally Posted by Sand Tiger
I keep my focus on the task right in front of me, not the road ahead.


I admire your ability to do this. Because I know that, for me, it's often when I look too far ahead and see how far I still have to go that I get discouraged and almost stop putting in the effort. You have to fortitude not to fall into that trap. Good for you!

Originally Posted by casinitaly
've started working on the very tricky bits of "First Loss" Schumann, also started his "Sicilienne". I've been working out the Grieg piece (Op12, N3- Watchman's Song) and I think I've got a way to manage the 32nd note arpeggios! .....I think I'd like to try to use two hands ...I wonder how my teacher will react to that! lol we shall see!


This sounds to me like you've got a full plate and are bursting with enthusiasm to work on it. Good! A flying start is half the battle wink.

Originally Posted by SwissMS
My AOTW is getting a halfway decent recording submitted for the AFB recital. It is not perfect, but it is the best I can do at this point of my piano journey.


I think it's very brave of you to have submitted a recording that is so obviously 'not perfect' to you. Mind you, I did exactly the same thing ... which is how I know that it requires some bravery wink. So, congratulations.

Originally Posted by Dulcetta
I am arranging skype lessons with a fantastic Kodaly teacher, which will hopefully give me a great foundation in sight-singing and developing my aural and general musicianship skills to give me a solid foundation for piano sight reading and interval recognition etc. Yay!!!


As I always say when someone posts here about a new teacher: having a good teacher is *essential*, I think, to making good progress in your musical journey, and it is therefore the mother of many AOTW's still to come. So, three cheers for you and the new teacher!

Originally Posted by Allard
manned up and got myself a video to go with the recital. Feels good to finish things properly.


Yay, I get to watch you on video! Can't wait. I'm still waiting on a gadget that will let me attach my iPhone to my music bookcase for a proper camera angle, but if it arrives in time, I'll post a video too.

Originally Posted by Ragdoll
I guess if I had one it would be that my teacher noticed and commented on my much improved reading of the music.


So then you do have one! Improved reading ability is huge! Obviously, it will not just help you with this particular piece, but with all of your future pieces, too. Don't be so hesitant. Be proud!

Originally Posted by earlofmar
I knew if I just broke it down into sections and practiced each section, sometimes hands separate and at very slow speeds eventually I would be able to play it. So it's early days but I have managed to overcome a few physical and mental hurdles. I am so happy with the progress and even although I can't play it straight through yet I still feel I have had win.


This *is* a huge win, even if you don't get it ready in time for the recital. Because hand independence is an awesome skill to have, not just for this piece, but for all of them! Yay for buckling down and practicing that!

Originally Posted by ElleC
Must say, I was inspired by Saranoya to learn this piece.


That's ... good, I guess? smile My performance of it must not have been as flawed as I thought it was, then. Or maybe it was, and I inspired you by bolstering your determination that you can do better than that. Either way, I'm sure you'll do much better than I ever could, once you polish it smile. Good luck!

Originally Posted by manyhands
Using the metronome to learn to hear it and later check myself worked great.


Yay for the power of the metronome as a learning tool. Great that it's working for you!


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#2080776 - 05/11/13 11:51 AM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: FarmGirl]  
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Originally Posted by FarmGirl
After I struggled to play it, she wrote my exclamations as I utter and where i did in my score in pencil! So I see "oh sh*t! F*ck! Darn it! " written all over my score. She told me "those are the places that you get off tempo, stop swearing, it's a waste of time".

Funniest post I've seen in a long time...

Family is out for several hours, I'm sitting at the piano, and what am I doing?

Posting on my phone...

Sounds awful... despairing of getting recital submission together. Piano sounds worse than before it was tuned.


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Originally Posted by FarmGirl
After I struggled to play it, she wrote my exclamations as I utter and where i did in my score in pencil! So I see "oh sh*t! F*ck! Darn it! " written all over my score. She told me "those are the places that you get off tempo, stop swearing, it's a waste of time".

Funniest post I've seen in a long time...

Family is out for several hours, I'm sitting at the piano, and what am I doing?

Posting on my phone...

Sounds awful... despairing of getting recital submission together. Piano sounds worse than before it was tuned.

Posting that was cathartic... just got a clean take. It's not very good, and recorded in mono on my phone, but it's representative of my capabilities at this time. I'll keep plugging away at it!


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#2080844 - 05/11/13 01:20 PM Re: Achievement of the week - what got you excited? [Re: aTallGuyNH]  
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Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
Sounds awful... despairing of getting recital submission together. Piano sounds worse than before it was tuned.

Thoughts? Should I complain?

You get to hear my entire repetoire (don't worry -- only takes a couple minutes), plus Chopin Op 28, #7 at the 3:12 mark:

[video:youtube]7UlHOIMpwR8[/video]

I feel like a spinet is inherently inferior and should not be expected to hold its tune very well, but I really question how it can be this bad this fast. Or, if this is normal, I don't know why anyone would own one.

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Don't know what to say, Tallguy. Have your previous tunings on this piano been more to your liking and lasted longer? The weather here lately has been all over the place as far as humidity. This time of year is typically a time of transition from heating to air conditioning. I won't get my piano tuned until July after our A/C has been running for a while.

I used to have a spinet piano before getting my M&H. I don't think there is some inherent flaw in a spinet in general that they won't hold a tune. Mine would tune up well and hold tune very well.

Is this tuning experience vasty different from others on this exact piano? I think that's the question you should be asking. If the piano has tuned up well in the past and held tune, and you are not happy 8 days after a full tuning, then I would say somethig to your tuner about it.

BYW, you play very nicely!! I was expecting a beginner. You are more accomplished than that!!!


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I think you should complain, TallGuy. I can't imagine it could possibly be this bad, this fast, unless it was badly tuned to begin with.

Also, I admire your fortitude in learning to play on an instrument that sounds *that* horrible most of the time. This alone should be enough of an argument for your wife to give you the go-ahead on getting the Hamilton from the church. Tell her it will improve *her* quality of life, too, since at least she won't have to listen to that awful-sounding piano all the time anymore.


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Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
Sounds awful... despairing of getting recital submission together. Piano sounds worse than before it was tuned.

Thoughts? Should I complain?

You get to hear my entire repetoire (don't worry -- only takes a couple minutes), plus Chopin Op 28, #7 at the 3:12 mark:

[video:youtube]7UlHOIMpwR8[/video]

I feel like a spinet is inherently inferior and should not be expected to hold its tune very well, but I really question how it can be this bad this fast. Or, if this is normal, I don't know why anyone would own one.


That is pretty bad!
The accepted wisdom is that a spinet holds tuning less well than a full-size upright. This may be because of the inherent design. Or it may be because spinets tend to cater for the market that wants cheap and small rather than good. The only quality spinets I've come across were made by Challen - the BBC had a lot of them in their London studios.
But that's not acceptable, just after a tuning. If the piano wouldn't "hold" to that degree, the tuner should have said so and recommended you not to waste your money.

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Originally Posted by aTallGuyNH
I feel like a spinet is inherently inferior and should not be expected to hold its tune very well, but I really question how it can be this bad this fast. Or, if this is normal, I don't know why anyone would own one.


It's really octave 4 that's gone completely sour. Octave 5 is reasonable to my imperfect ear, but when you have to play in both octaves the result is unpleasant. The pop music definitely is more accepting of an out-of-whack piano.

It may not be so much that the piano is a spinet, but that the piano wasn't in the best of shape to begin with. If it hadn't been tuned in a long time, then when the tuner brings it into line, the strings will stretch some and bring it back out of tune quickly, requiring another visit.

If the piano has recently changed physical environments, then differing humidity and temperature may require that the piano settle in a while.

(Alternatively, there could be a more substantial physical problem.)

To the extent the piano's form factor is posing a problem it's going to be around the quality of the tone and a hard-to-control, hard-to-service action. Those problems are going to be inherent to the piano regardless of what your tech does.

If you've only just had your piano tuned, I'd ask the tuner to come back in and bring it back in line.


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