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#1499304 - 08/19/10 01:06 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: jazzwee]  
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king cole I would have never guessed !

Teddy Wilson I think my tabs got mixed up, so I probably switched 2 and 3.
1. I found after you said easy. I thought it might be someone playing Tatum. Maybe an early Monk.


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#1499309 - 08/19/10 01:08 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Who says we should only recognize pianists? What about this guy:

http://www.box.net/shared/eh85qo43fx


#1499343 - 08/19/10 02:15 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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I got it.
So it sounds really like Parker, its Little suede shoes, but the quality is far too good.
Even remastered Parker doesnt sound like that, so its remastered .....(the other sax player who sounds so much like Parker).
I think

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#1499376 - 08/19/10 03:29 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: KlinkKlonk]  
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It can't be Parker because of the tone. Parker's tone is distinctive.


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#1499484 - 08/19/10 06:07 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: jazzwee]  
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You guys are good!

#1499489 - 08/19/10 06:12 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?

#1499491 - 08/19/10 06:14 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Briefly going back to regularly scheduled programming, I just recorded a little Giant Steps practice in swing. It sounds awful to me for some reason. Maybe I need to break up my lines into smaller chunks to keep the rhythm flowing better. Critique of any magnitude welcome.

Giant Steps - Swing
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#1499494 - 08/19/10 06:15 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?


My gosh that is so recognizable. In the first 5 seconds. smile Maybe because I listen to him a lot.

Edit - just today, I bought tickets to his concert scheduled in January...

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#1499503 - 08/19/10 06:37 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?



Man I am batting 0 for 100! Sounded like an homage to Herbie, or someone who likes his style. I really have no clue though. The bassist sounds like Ron Carter though, or like he was in some of those old Herbie trios.


#1499507 - 08/19/10 06:46 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: Wizard of Oz]  
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Originally Posted by Wizard of Oz
Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:

http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce

more modern?



Man I am batting 0 for 100! Sounded like an homage to Herbie, or someone who likes his style. I really have no clue though. The bassist sounds like Ron Carter though, or like he was in some of those old Herbie trios.



Oh my gosh wiz! LOL. Just the piano sound alone is so distinctive. The rhythm section is so recognizable. Herbie doing odd meters? Not a chance. You need to listen more carefully to the players you know, man. LOL.

My only question is what album this is from since I have all of his albums (or so I thought) and I have never heard this.


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#1499509 - 08/19/10 06:52 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: Wizard of Oz]  
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Ok, my turn for the guessing game:

http://www.box.net/shared/il1j3p8j1g

CAVEAT: Skip to the 00:08 second mark, then press play. Otherwise you will hear a voice intro and it may give it away. I don't have the editing software to cut it out right now.


http://www.box.net/shared/n5rcell8iy

2nd one is an ma4 file, so you have to download it. It's worth it! A duet covering one of Wayne Shorter's tune.



All 3 players are well known and you'd know their names instantly if I said it.

#1499514 - 08/19/10 06:56 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: Wizard of Oz]  
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hehe wee! I was concentrating on the piano on the first listen, my guess now is Ahmad Jamal. I listen to some of his stuff but not much.

Close?

Now try the 2 clips I put up.

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Wiz, absolutely cannot be Ahmad Jamal. LOL. This is really fun, I have to admit.

Well of course your first clip is one of the most recognizable pianists of all time. I'm actually glad you posted the whole thing as it made it quite an enjoyable listen. You notice how this guy can swing at such fast tempos? It almost approaches corny. But only he can get away with it. In a ballad his touch is just the standard that everyone shoots for.

Clip #2 - I knew immediately from a general style of playing. But when I we got to the solo portion later then, it's absolutely confirmed. His swing and syncopation are so familiar to me. I don't know this tune though. Another track I need to get.


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#1499526 - 08/19/10 07:13 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: jazzwee]  
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Nope, I was wrong on #2! You got me there. I already said earlier, this is one of the players I couldn't guess because the style takes from someone else.



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#1499527 - 08/19/10 07:13 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: Wizard of Oz]  
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Wiz, I'm afraid the editing software will be necessary for both clips or else it really, really gives it away.

Would I have guessed? No smile


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>> You notice how this guy can swing at such fast tempos

are we talking about the Wiz' 1st clip?

It is a good reminder that all this stuff is available for free on NPR's web site.

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Originally Posted by knotty
>> You notice how this guy can swing at such fast tempos

are we talking about the Wiz' 1st clip?


Yes, when he plays 16th's you can hear it (which doesn't come till later).

Now the second one, I thought was Herbie until I finaly saw the title on the track. These types of players are hard to guess because they can mimic Herbie, etc.


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#1499533 - 08/19/10 07:22 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Itunes opened the file and gave it away.

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About Giant Steps. I thought it was quite good. If anything, I think this tune lends itself to outrageously long lines. Many of your phrases are 2 measures long. I would practice on extending this to 4 to 8 measures.

The other thing is many of the lines seem to leave us hanging. If you were to put lyrics on top of your lines, it almost as if someone was constantly expressing surprise.

Your time was much better than the other version you posted a while back.

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Ah...hahaa, that sucks.

Funny about the 1st one, jazzwee, who were you thinking of?

And same with the 2nd.


Yeah I'll need to get Audacity or something to clean up the files. knotty is right, lots of free gems on NPR. That's where I go now, no need for a radio.


So who's the guy for your last clip knotty?

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>> Yes, when he plays 16th's you can hear it (which doesn't come till later).
But it's a woman ...

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Ah...that is the difficulty with Giant Steps...it is so difficult to think of it melodically. But I probably intentionally did not do that here. I think I was thinking more melodies the last time.

My rhythm started to get messed up later and also I went a little faster. I shouldn't do that. GRRRR.

Thanks Knotty.



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#1499545 - 08/19/10 07:45 PM Re: Jazz Study Group 2: Intermediate/Advanced Players [Re: knotty]  
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Originally Posted by knotty
>> Yes, when he plays 16th's you can hear it (which doesn't come till later).
But it's a woman ...


knotty, don't give it away so easily!!

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Are you saying McPartland was playing that? I thought she was interviewing Bill. Then I'm 0/2. LOL!


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Wiz, I was in the car driving and I heard another track from Bill Charlap/Renee Rosnes and I really liked it (Chorinho). So I bought the album. Very original. Thanks for the tip!


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jazzwee, no, that is actually Hiromi!! bet you wouldn't have guessed it in a million years.

I'm sure it fooled some because most don't think she can play ballads like Blue in Green, but I do like her slower songs, unlike the fast ones where she's blazing.

That new duo album by Charlap/Rosnes really is good, Renee is one of my favourite players and I can recognize her playing cause I do listen to her alot. Charlap sounds more old school, he was on a special with Tony Bennett for Elvis Costello's Spectacle show. Pat Metheny, Charlie Haden were on another one too.


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Originally Posted by knotty
how about this:
http://www.box.net/shared/m6dfhhz3ce
more modern?


Let's hear the name now.

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That sounds so familiar, like I was just listening to it yesterday, but I can't place it.
I am sure it will be so obvious when I find out.

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