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Out of boredom, and to expand my skills, there was a time when I used to choose different notes to set a temperament from. It's not the note you start from, it's the result that counts.

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Originally Posted by Eric Gloo
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Eric, how would you start a temperament at F#3? (Keeping in mind that I tune from A440 by fork.) I suppose I could tune D4 as a slightly tempered P5 from A4, and then construct a ladder of CM3s: F#3-A#3-D4-F#4-A#4. But then everything would hinge on that first P5?



How far into setting your temperament octave do you come to F3? If it is near the beginning, can you reverse things to make it near the end, or AT the end...and simply tune it as an octave to F4?


It's very close to the beginning - basically right at the start.
A4 to fork
A3 to A4 (4:2 +)
F3 to A3 (estimate)
F4 to F3 (4:2 +)
C#4 to A3 (to fit into the set of contiguous M3s)
If the CM3s are not beating progressively, then F3, F4 and C#4 are corrected. Once they are progressive, the rest of the temperament is constructed (using P4s and P5s).

So you see, this particular sequence cannot do without F3 from the very beginning.


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Still tuning for a piano store for free. Why? Because I still need practice. Started on a baby grand. Stopped when I realized it was in need of repair. One string had a horrible phantom vibration, another string wouldn't change pitch no matter what I did and another sounded like a dying elephant.

Went onto an upright and tuned that. Sounded nice when I finished. Oh, fixed a sticky key. Still working on getting my tunings to 1.5 hours. I'm still hovering around 2 hours.

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Originally Posted by plns
Still tuning for a piano store for free. Why? Because I still need practice. Started on a baby grand. Stopped when I realized it was in need of repair. One string had a horrible phantom vibration, another string wouldn't change pitch no matter what I did and another sounded like a dying elephant.

Went onto an upright and tuned that. Sounded nice when I finished. Oh, fixed a sticky key. Still working on getting my tunings to 1.5 hours. I'm still hovering around 2 hours.


Where is the store? I've always wanted to know what a dying elephant sounds like, but don't want to get in trouble for killing one.


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Originally Posted by plns
Still tuning for a piano store for free. Why? Because I still need practice. Started on a baby grand. Stopped when I realized it was in need of repair. One string had a horrible phantom vibration, another string wouldn't change pitch no matter what I did and another sounded like a dying elephant...


If the strings were nearby each other you likely got the hammer on the wrong pin. sometimes rusty strings will get caught up at the bearing points and need a greater amount of pin movement to break them free....always go to the flat side first before pulling these up to pitch. Going flat first also prevents string breakage if your accidently on the wrong pin.


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I'm setting in my recliner recuperating from my Gallbladder surgery. That's what my last 3 days have consisted of. Friday, Saturday and Sunday and now Monday too. Other than pacing the house when I get bored out of my mind which I do frequently. I have to move around too! Funny how sleepy we get while we heal.


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Originally Posted by Jerry Groot RPT
I'm setting in my recliner recuperating from my Gallbladder surgery. That's what my last 3 days have consisted of. Friday, Saturday and Sunday and now Monday too. Other than pacing the house when I get bored out of my mind which I do frequently. I have to move around too! Funny how sleepy we get while we heal.


I figured you would be daydreaming about all the delicious but "too rich" foods your going to be passing up on in the future Jerry.


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You're right Emmery! I day dream about them every time I turn on the television and it shows me what I'm missing and what I really want! MMMMMMM. M*M's. and more M&M's. How come all the good stuff is soooo bad for us?


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There is a positive thing to having that gallbladder removed. You never have to worry about constipation again...just order up a lb of chicken wings and it'll clean you right out (or so I've heard). You might advertise yourself as a "vegan" tuner in the future. I have heard jokingly from native indians that the word "vegan" in their language means "lousy hunter".

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Originally Posted by Emmery
I have heard jokingly from native indians that the word "vegan" in their language means "lousy hunter".

ROTFL!

I've been sending Jerry lots of PM's so he won't get too bored.


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Yeah, Marty's keeping me occupied! Thanks Marty!

Man!!! You mean to tell me I've gotta give me up them thar, wet burritos? And nummy candy bars n such? awwwwwwwwwwww.


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Galling, isn't it?


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Jerry, you need to play some appropriate music for your condition... may I suggest The Rolling Stones.


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hahaha Emmery and Marty. You know, maybe I'll just set here and get stoned. "Rocking" back and forth in my chair playing rock of ages.


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Jer - How can you get stoned when you've been de-stoned?

I think we are about to cross the great granite bridge without a piddle.


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I don't know but you guys really rock.


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Originally Posted by Emmery
I have heard jokingly from native indians that the word "vegan" in their language means "lousy hunter".
I heard that from one of our state's Abnaki Indians, and he wasn't joking. ('Bet he stole the idea from one of the Cannuk Indians knowing him.)

He also said, "Don't call me Native American. We drove those people out and took their land long before the Europeans thought of the idea."


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I think we need to pass a peace pipe with some wacky-tabakee. Better than smoking veggies. Then we can get rid of all the Europeans.

Oops - that's me!


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