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#2011639 - 01/09/13 10:17 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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We are working on our website along with an updated dealer locator. It should be clear following the NAMM show where you'll be able to purchase the Celviano models.


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#2011931 - 01/09/13 09:27 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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Hi Mike,

Are the Celviano models loaded with a better sound source than that in Privia digital pianos? Which are the main differences between them?

Thanks.

#2011948 - 01/09/13 10:07 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: mg64]  
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Originally Posted by mg64
Hi Mike,

Are the Celviano models loaded with a better sound source than that in Privia digital pianos? Which are the main differences between them?

Thanks.


The primary differences are the cabinetry and speaker systems. The Celviano AP-650 has the largest speaker system which can't be found on a Privia. Celviano models also come with benches (some height adjustable, depending on the model).


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#2012458 - 01/10/13 08:09 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Would these come then already assembled?



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#2012462 - 01/10/13 08:17 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: PossumES8SP280]  
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Originally Posted by Possum PX130350
Would these come then already assembled?



That would be up to your local dealer.


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#2014093 - 01/13/13 08:41 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin


The primary differences are the cabinetry and speaker systems. The Celviano AP-650 has the largest speaker system which can't be found on a Privia. Celviano models also come with benches (some height adjustable, depending on the model).


Thanks.

Last edited by mg64; 01/13/13 08:44 PM.
#2014107 - 01/13/13 09:14 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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A note on pedal action for the PX-350:

I just installed the Casio "triple pedal" (SP-33).

"Soft pedal" works, somewhat.

"Sostenuto pedal" works.

"Damper pedal" works as follows:

. . . Pedal up -- plain sound.

. . . Pedal partially down (over a range of positions) --
. . . . . a _constant_ amount of "half-pedal" effect --
. . . . . notes decay faster than "pedal down",
. . . . slower than 'pedal up'

. . . Pedal down -- undamped (long) decay.

There's a menu option that controls the "depth" of the half-pedal effect:

. . . 0 -- "half-pedal" is the same as 'pedal up'

. . . 42 -- "half-pedal" is the same as "pedal down".

Intermediate values give intermediate-length shortened decay. The default is 24, which sounds nice to my ears, more-or-less like dampers just barely touching the strings.

The position of the pedal that causes the "loom of strings" to sound, seems to vary with the "half-pedal depth" menu option. But the _volume_ of the "loom of strings" doesn't vary with pedal velocity [to my ears].

So the damping time doesn't depend _continuously_ on the position of the pedal.

It's a nice add-on. Not the subtle analog control of a "real piano" pedal, but better than 'on / off'.

. Charles

PS -- I'm sorry if this description is ambiguous or incomprehensible. Playing it is easy; describing it is a bit harder!


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#2014125 - 01/13/13 09:56 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
Originally Posted by Possum PX130350
Would these come then already assembled?



That would be up to your local dealer.


Thanks- I am going to look around and check the site- I'll probably need something with a little more power such as the 850 or 650.


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#2081793 - 05/13/13 08:47 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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350 vs 850

Is px-850 worth spending extra $ on by these features ?

- 4 level string resonance (none in 350')
- 4 level damper resonance (on/off in 350's)
- 4 level hammer response (on/off in 350's)
- key off simulator (none in 350')
- 4 level lid simulator (none in 350')


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#2081869 - 05/13/13 11:00 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: tomek]  
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I thought the PX850 also had a continuous sustain pedal too?



However!

Based on UK prices:

PX350 = £599
CS67 Stand = £80
SP33 pedal board £80

Total price £759

While the PX850 is £799.


#2082211 - 05/14/13 12:06 AM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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"String resonance" is one of the things that makes the sound of an AP "richer" or "fuller" than the sound of a DP.

If Casio has done a good job of implementing it in the PX-850 (which I haven't played yet), it's worth having.

And I think "justpin" is right -- the PX-850 should have a continuous "sustain" pedal.

. Charles


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#2082539 - 05/14/13 03:20 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Kbeaumont]  
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where can i find specs about headphone's out amplifier power in px series ?

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#2499231 - 01/11/16 03:09 PM Re: Casio Privia PX-350M [Re: Mike_Martin]  
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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
kmf123kmf,
The SP32 and SP33 BOTH support a "progressive half-pedaling." It is a variable controller from 0-127 in MIDI values. Not an on/off switch. The SP33 is actually velocity sensitive. The force at which you press the pedal also impacts the volume of the "damper sound". You can hear the dampers lifting off the strings and this will be either very subtle or more noticeable based on the how quickly you stomp on the damper pedal.


It's been confirmed by Charles in a previous post that the px350 only supports half and not continuous pedal over midi with SP33

So a couple of questions, maybe Mike can confirm:

Was this ever resolved? Does the SP33 have a continuous damper ie is it a potentiometer ( but is converted to 3 midi levels by the px350)?
Does the internal sound engine respond to the continuous pedal or just the 3 levels.

Is the px360 situation identical to above?

Thanks in advance
Steve

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