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That's really a pitty, there should be something you can buy, or at least casio should make one if not 3rd party. Look at yamaha, they have that.
I am just weighing pros and cons of PX-150/350 vs Yamaha P-105/P-155

Does anyone know if SP-32 and SP-33 are interchangeble or there is a hardware difference.

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Originally Posted by NikoKiko
Does anyone know if SP-32 and SP-33 are interchangeble or there is a hardware difference.

AFAIK, they're NOT interchangeable. I think it was confirmed in some other thread by Mike Martin of Casio.


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thank you Sir,
so if I want a better quality pedal other than the included one, I can by SP-33.
If I don't like the whole thing I can take it apart and mount the 3 pedal assembly on some piece of board. That is if I don't but the stand for the piano.

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Anyone know where they have PX-150/PX-350 on display in Vancouver, Canada ?
I've tried the PX-130, here locally, but I would like to buy/test the new models.

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A recently posted demo from KraftMusic for the PX-350:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCtOWbO53Y8

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Any updated news on the Celviano AP-250 / 450 / 650 release date for the US? Mike previously said January 2013 (page 8 of this thread?), but it hasn't even been announced yet, as far as I am aware.

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We launch them at the NAMM show in two weeks and begin shipping immediately after.


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Hi Mike,

Please sign me up for an AP 650. As long as the price is reasonable, it will be a quick order. (If it's any help, please send me a private message for more info.)

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A question for Mike:

I’ve heard rumors that the Casio Celviano AP 650 will not be for sale through Internet stores such as musiciansfriend, kraftmusic, etc. Can you confirm this? Will I be able to buy a 650 without physically visiting a Casio dealer?

Note: The nearest Casio dealer is some 200 miles away from where I live. I’m also some 200 miles from the nearest Kawai dealer. A similar problem came up when I tried to buy a Kawai CN34 starting several weeks ago. You can’t negotiate a price with Kawai dealer unless you are physically standing in the store with a Kawai dealer. Kawai lost a sale because of this.

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Mike, is there a Casio dealer in South Jersey?- in the event in the future I would want a console and not want to assemble it myself.


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We are working on our website along with an updated dealer locator. It should be clear following the NAMM show where you'll be able to purchase the Celviano models.


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Hi Mike,

Are the Celviano models loaded with a better sound source than that in Privia digital pianos? Which are the main differences between them?

Thanks.

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Are the Celviano models loaded with a better sound source than that in Privia digital pianos? Which are the main differences between them?

Thanks.


The primary differences are the cabinetry and speaker systems. The Celviano AP-650 has the largest speaker system which can't be found on a Privia. Celviano models also come with benches (some height adjustable, depending on the model).


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Would these come then already assembled?



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Originally Posted by Possum PX130350
Would these come then already assembled?



That would be up to your local dealer.


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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin


The primary differences are the cabinetry and speaker systems. The Celviano AP-650 has the largest speaker system which can't be found on a Privia. Celviano models also come with benches (some height adjustable, depending on the model).


Thanks.

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A note on pedal action for the PX-350:

I just installed the Casio "triple pedal" (SP-33).

"Soft pedal" works, somewhat.

"Sostenuto pedal" works.

"Damper pedal" works as follows:

. . . Pedal up -- plain sound.

. . . Pedal partially down (over a range of positions) --
. . . . . a _constant_ amount of "half-pedal" effect --
. . . . . notes decay faster than "pedal down",
. . . . slower than 'pedal up'

. . . Pedal down -- undamped (long) decay.

There's a menu option that controls the "depth" of the half-pedal effect:

. . . 0 -- "half-pedal" is the same as 'pedal up'

. . . 42 -- "half-pedal" is the same as "pedal down".

Intermediate values give intermediate-length shortened decay. The default is 24, which sounds nice to my ears, more-or-less like dampers just barely touching the strings.

The position of the pedal that causes the "loom of strings" to sound, seems to vary with the "half-pedal depth" menu option. But the _volume_ of the "loom of strings" doesn't vary with pedal velocity [to my ears].

So the damping time doesn't depend _continuously_ on the position of the pedal.

It's a nice add-on. Not the subtle analog control of a "real piano" pedal, but better than 'on / off'.

. Charles

PS -- I'm sorry if this description is ambiguous or incomprehensible. Playing it is easy; describing it is a bit harder!


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Originally Posted by Mike_Martin
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Would these come then already assembled?



That would be up to your local dealer.


Thanks- I am going to look around and check the site- I'll probably need something with a little more power such as the 850 or 650.


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350 vs 850

Is px-850 worth spending extra $ on by these features ?

- 4 level string resonance (none in 350')
- 4 level damper resonance (on/off in 350's)
- 4 level hammer response (on/off in 350's)
- key off simulator (none in 350')
- 4 level lid simulator (none in 350')


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I thought the PX850 also had a continuous sustain pedal too?



However!

Based on UK prices:

PX350 = £599
CS67 Stand = £80
SP33 pedal board £80

Total price £759

While the PX850 is £799.


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