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Hi all
I'm looking for piano repertoire that span as wide a range as possible across the piano. For example Chopin's Etude Op 25 no 11 or op 10 no 1.
However, those pieces are really hard for me and I'm looking for repertoire that is at an intermediate level. And also as the pieces I mentioned are all pretty fast with a whole lot of running notes, I am also looking for ones that are slower and more lyrical instead.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance!
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Beethoven - "Tempest" Sonata slow movement, Op. 31 No. 2. Not so much because it goes outrageously far to the top or bottom, but because it emphasizes its extremes in such a way that it feels much farther.
Rachmaninoff - C# minor Prelude. Uses a lot of the keyboard and especially the low registers.
Debussy - Prelude No. 4, Les parfums et les sons tournent dans l'air du soir.
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One that comes to mind for me is Edvard Grieg's "Peasant's March" from his Op 54 Lyric Pieces (I believe No 2 in that set). It rather specifically covers the entire range of the keyboard, and is IMO not overly difficult. Also, you might give the Brahms Intermezzi Op 117 a try -- particularly NO 2. I consider those to be early advanced rather than intermediate, but they're all beautiful.
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Jean Françaix wrote a Scherzo which uses A1 to A85. It is not too difficult.
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Unless I'm missing something, I see that the "Norwegian March" Op 54, No 2, goes down only to G in the bass and C in the treble, leaving almost an octave in the left and a full octave in the right untouched. The "Notturno" from the same set (Op 54, No 4) has a wider range: low C to uppermost E.
While the Brahms, Op 117, No 2, goes down to a low B-flat, the uppermost note (last chord) is only a B-flat, leaving a whole octave untouched.
In both cases, the lowest/highest notes are touched only once.
I would have to say that one might be hard pressed to find repertoire within the technical grasp of the OP that really fulfills his requirements. Of course, "a wide a range as possible" might be the limiting factor that makes all suggestions appropriate.
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I'm very curious...
From a composition point of view such a restrain might be interesting to work with, but as a performer I really can't see a reason to find such a work.
Would the OP be willing to explain the 'why', please? As I said... I'm just curious...
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I frequently use the opening cadenza of Grieg's Piano Concerto to assess the tone across the whole keyboard of a piano, if I have only a few seconds to do so. The cadenza uses the lowest note and just misses out the top three notes, in just 5 measures - and you can extend the upward flourish by an octave to take in the highest note too, if desired . But it's fast and not exactly easy... For a self-contained piece, there's Carl Vine's The Anne Landa Preludes No.8: Sweetsour, which uses both the bottom A and the top C, and isn't difficult, because it's slow.
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Thanks for all the suggestions. In response to Nikolas, I'm looking for pieces to play that will give me an idea of the sound of the piano across the entire range if I play different pianos for the first time, like bennevis' suggestion to use the start of Grieg's concerto.
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The D-major recapitulation of the main theme in Rachmaninoff's 3rd piano concerto. Goes down to the bottom D, and up to the top C. Plus, you can play it a little slower, since you're not playing it with the orchestra, and the harmonies are so rich you'll get a real idea of the sound the piano can make. You can also really overdo the swell in the dynamics to get a true appreciation of the piano's dynamic range.
(Yes, the concerto is not even close to "intermediate" level, but I feel these two pages can be played by someone mentioning Chopin's etudes. Start after the mini-cadenza, and end before the octave runs.)
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I'm looking for pieces to play that will give me an idea of the sound of the piano across the entire range if I play different pianos for the first time
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I'm looking for pieces to play that will give me an idea of the sound of the piano across the entire range if I play different pianos for the first time Other than the opening of the Grieg concerto, when checking out pianos for their tonal quality, I also play the opening piano solo (starting with a cadenza) - three pages long, lasting around two minutes - of the third movement of the Yellow River Concerto. It extends from the low B flat to the top B flat, and you can tack on your own conclusion so that it doesn't sound like the orchestra needs to follow where you stopped.....
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Talking of Grieg there's always "Wedding Day at Troldhaugen" and that tricky syncopated bit from m32 and rising to M42 and then cadenzing over 6 octaves by m45.
But then you wanted something easy to play.
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You can play the Rachmaninoff Prelude in g minor, there is a section with octaves that start up as high as A6 (or you can start with the preceding chords and go up to A#6) and goes down to G1. You can play this as slow as you like.
Perhaps a Chopin Nocturne would be good, like the e minor? That one in m. 37 goes from F#1 to B7.
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I'm looking for pieces to play that will give me an idea of the sound of the piano across the entire range if I play different pianos for the first time If you are trying out pianos, there is no reason why you need one piece to test the different ranges and the extremes of the piano. It makes more sense to learn a couple of pieces that you like, are appropriate to your piano study, or for any of countless reasons other than the one piece happens to use notes in every range. And if your are trying pianos there's no reason to play an entire piece. Just choose a few measures from different pieces to hear how every section of the piano sounds.
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12345 sounds like a newcomer ... the spare 11 count would indicate a freshness at the Forum.
Also, the request for a slow piece of music covering a wide range of keyboard, might suggest hoping to get a handle on the distant ends of the piano.
However, it might be wise to start where we all did ... with the Bach Prelude I (BkI) and then drift into the Mozart Fantasia.
Who knows what next ... perhaps the redoubtable Moonlight Sonata... well, the first two movements at least ... the last romps over the full reach of the keyboard, but at lightning speed.
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"They" (whoever they are) say Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit uses every key on the piano. I'm not sure if that's true but it definitely uses most of them, and many in the outer reaches of keys.
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"They" (whoever they are) say Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit uses every key on the piano. I'm not sure if that's true but it definitely uses most of them, and many in the outer reaches of keys. This raises a related and interesting (to me) question. Is there indeed a piece in the standard repertoire that uses all 88 keys? Let's make it harder and say that glissandos don't count. -J
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